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    6. Maj 2009, 18:49:47
    toedder 
    1) At no online poker room I have played, you can rathole. You have to usually wait some time before you return with a shorter stack than what you left with, typically about 30 minutes or so.

    2) There is no bullying in cash games. If I have 10k and you have 1k at the table, we only play for 1k each hand. The 9k I have behind don't help me in any way, shape or form. Big stack bullying is a concept of tournament poker, useless in cash games. Absolutely useless. I have stated this several times. If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe a "noted poker authority" Ed Miller.

    6. Maj 2009, 22:17:49
    Czuch 
    Emne: Re:
    Gordon Shumway: Thanks for that link... it does make sense, I knew someone would find that my theory was wrong!

    I guess its more tournament play where a big stack can bully, although he did admit that there might be a psychological advantage at the very least.


    But one thing his theory doesnt address is the act of "banking"... if I have 10k and you have 1k, and we both play correctly, over time you will have to buy back in 10 times for every one time I have to buy back in..... so, you cant really "bank" under this concept, its just temporarily taking money off of the table

    6. Maj 2009, 23:36:01
    puupia 
    Emne: Re:
    Gordon Shumway: 1) I've played at completely different sites then. I know Pokerstars and Full Tilt have timeouts before you can join with lower stacks.. but those are the only sites i know to have such rules. I've playd more tournaments than ring-games so i might be mistaken.

    2) With players who can manage their bankroll in cash games what you and Mr. Miller say might be true.

    But at BK the games are like "long term tournaments". Every entrant has limited amount of chips to spend. And we have very limited amount of players, and players can't really choose which kind of games to play at. You have to play whoever has joined the table. HIghrollers who would rather play with higher stakes have to play with beginners, because there just is not enough players for higher stakes game.

    7. Maj 2009, 15:42:22
    toedder 
    Emne: Re:
    puupia: to the ratholing: I know PartyPoker introduced a period you have to waight too and on the iPoker network this is implemented also. As well as the rooms Stars and FT that you mentioned. IDK about Ongame or some obscure networks, but rules against ratholing are pretty much the norm nowadays. It used to be different a few years ago though.

    And you have a fair point about BK ring games being a little bit like long term tournaments!

    7. Maj 2009, 16:59:11
    Bwild 
    Emne: Re:
    Gordon Shumway: I play at poker stars alot...both play money and cash money.
    you'll see the occasional rathole...but most bank their money and move to another table, buying in with fewer chips.
    Theres not enough tables playing at once here yet,so coming back to the same table is the only option.
    Tournament play would increase the number of players, imo , and increase the current influx of new members who go straight to the poker tables.

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