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17. decembra 2010, 23:47:17
Mort 
In the news, the wikileaks dude Julian Assange has been granted bail. The claims of him running off (by the Swedish prosecution) were described as not having any credibility considering Mr Assange's previous behavior of complete compliance with the Swedish and English Authorities.

The Wikileaks founder fears extradition to the USA as a more likely possibility than being extradited to Sweden.

... So much for Freedom of Speech.. A right protected by the USA constitution.. or so the right wingers keep saying when they have something to say.. even when that what they say is questionable or basically a lie...

....yet the truth is a punishable offense!!

18. decembra 2010, 02:31:20
rod03801 
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(V): Are you for real? For one, he is not a U.S. citizen, and is NOT protected under OUR constitution.

18. decembra 2010, 03:15:58
Bernice 
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rod03801: he is not a US citizen as you say, but he fears extradition to Sweden and then from there to the USA....

It is full on in our news as he was born here in my town and then went to Magnetic Island which is a 15 minute boat ride from the mainland....

All he is really guilty of tho is publishing facts, he didn't personally steal them he was given them...

18. decembra 2010, 03:17:35
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re:
Bernice: What does that have to do with (V)'s comparison to our constitution? He is NOT protected under our constitution. He is an enemy of the U.S. and should be treated as such.

18. decembra 2010, 06:12:56
Bernice 
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rod03801: **what has that got to do with (V)'s etc etc.***....nothing.

as you say...he is an enemy, but only because he is disclosing "stuff" that you lot don't want disclosed. they say the truth hurts,...it must do because of all the jumping up and down you are doing hahahahaha

18. decembra 2010, 15:27:47
Mort 
Subjekt: Re:For one, he is not a U.S. citizen, and is NOT protected under OUR constitution.
rod03801: Yes.. I know he's not a 'US' citizen. I was being sarcastic over how some Americans are happy to use the "freedom of speech" bit to say anything without any responsibility towards what they say.

Try and watch some HIGNFY on youtube.. you'll understand!!

18. decembra 2010, 02:45:01
Vikings 
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(V): Go to an airport and yell Bomb! and see what happens

18. decembra 2010, 15:30:20
Mort 
Subjekt: Re:Go to an airport and yell Bomb! and see what happens
Vikings: They'll evacuate and I'll get charged with disturbing the peace.

.. Try yelling "All Muslims are Terrorists" here in the UK and you'll get arrested for disturbing the peace and a few other criminal offenses.

18. decembra 2010, 17:02:31
Vikings 
Subjekt: Re:Go to an airport and yell Bomb! and see what happens
(V): so you are saying that you would have to pay repercussion for something you would say!!!! what about freedom speech!!!!

18. decembra 2010, 20:34:30
Mort 
Subjekt: Re:Go to an airport and yell Bomb! and see what happens
Vikings: ..... I've always said that freedom of speech involves some responsibility, as there is for any action.

So.. Is any free speech really free?

eg Some folks saying "kill, murder, maim" yet criticising anyone else for saying the same about their "precious" (to quote Gollum) .... kinda takes away the moral high ground they claim.

18. decembra 2010, 20:58:41
Vikings 
Subjekt: Re:Go to an airport and yell Bomb! and see what happens
(V): well there you go, "I've always said that freedom of speech involves some responsibility, ..."
Publishing military secrets of another country = espionage

18. decembra 2010, 21:07:51
Mort 
Subjekt: Re:Go to an airport and yell Bomb! and see what happens
Vikings: ..... Military secrets?? .. what that the USA wants to spy on everyone? Or embarrassing war reports?

18. decembra 2010, 03:21:54
rod03801 
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Artful Dodger: Personally, I say take him out. As well as the traitor who gave him the info.

18. decembra 2010, 03:25:35
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re:
Artful Dodger: Yet people in charge (led by the useless Obama) do practically NOTHING

18. decembra 2010, 06:09:48
Bernice 
Subjekt: Re:
rod03801: you are only sh---ty because he is publishing US secrets that arent secrets but are now confirmed facts LOL....

As for taking him out AD.....hahahahaha you lot can't even take out Bin Laden....

18. decembra 2010, 06:10:44
Bernice 
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Artful Dodger: In in the rule of law**.....who's law?

18. decembra 2010, 06:23:15
Bernice 
Subjekt: Re:
Artful Dodger: your on regards dinner (if only we could) lol... and he wasnt in hiding in 2001...just too clever for your lot hahahahaha

18. decembra 2010, 06:34:47
Bernice 
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Artful Dodger: I agree with you regards "mentality"....procrastination is a killer and can ruin lot so things, but in this case it saved BinLadens life.....they say "he who hesitates is lost" but is that really true because BinLaden is now lost (to the USA) hahahaha

anyway...COS = guess LOL

Julian Assange was offered an opportunity and took it....made a lot of money and if he hadn't been accused of "sexual misfavours" then all this hoohah wouldnt have happened...

18. decembra 2010, 21:01:07
Bernice 
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Artful Dodger: **i THINK HE'LL GO TO FAR ETC ETC""....why has it taken so long for everyone to start screaming about all this....
as I said below, if it wasn't for the "sexual" charges it would have just gone on as it was, and if it is so easy for people to get the US secrets and disclose them, doncha think you should be looking at your own security?

18. decembra 2010, 22:52:35
Bernice 
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Artful Dodger: which major bank is he onto now? apparently things are going to get real nasty when all this information is released..LOL

America has frozen his money...pathetic.

19. decembra 2010, 00:52:39
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re:why has it taken so long for everyone to start screaming about all this..
Artful Dodger: That's right. ("wimpy prez") I wouldn't be surprise if his inactivity is quite planned.

19. decembra 2010, 00:59:30
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re:why has it taken so long for everyone to start screaming about all this..
Artful Dodger: Personally, I think it could be even more devious than that.

19. decembra 2010, 01:02:03
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re:why has it taken so long for everyone to start screaming about all this..
Artful Dodger: I don't trust him as far as I could throw him.

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