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    26. Mars 2009, 03:06:23
    Czuch 
    hey fenser, not much comment from you at all lately? It would be helpful to get some input on the bugs/problems and suggestions, just to know where we stand on some of the issues, thanks!

    26. Mars 2009, 07:23:14
    Fencer 
    Sujet: Re:
    modifié par Fencer (26. Mars 2009, 07:23:32)
    Czuch: There is nothing to comment yet. My local tests show that pot limit poker is OK and if something wrong happened recently, I hope you can imagine how difficult and complicated it is to reproduce such situations and pinpoint possible problem sources.
    Furthermore, I am busy with something else at the moment, so you must be patient and wait. As far as I know, the majority of users has no problems with limit and no limit poker here, so I can say that there is no critical issue which would require my immediate attention.

    26. Mars 2009, 14:24:10
    Czuch 
    Sujet: Re:
    Fencer: No, you are correct, there are no critical problems with the limit and no limits, but the pot limits are not configured correctly, and it has affected everyone, just some people dont realize it and other people dont use the boards or bug reports.

    I guess any other features IE more options like advanced play out of turn buttons or standing up without losing your seat, will be a long wait if ever?

    26. Mars 2009, 16:30:22
    Bwild 
    Sujet: Re:Furthermore, I am busy with something else at the moment,
    Fencer: I hope its tournament play for fellowships

    26. Mars 2009, 16:32:41
    Fencer 
    Sujet: Re:Furthermore, I am busy with something else at the moment,
    Bwild: That will be a followup.

    26. Mars 2009, 16:44:04
    puupia 
    Sujet: Re:
    Fencer: I'd say there are two critical issues in no limit poker:

    1. Sometimes betting order goes out of whack in the first betting round.
    2. You can't raise all-in if you have less than bb chips. Also you'll be kicked out of table for not having enough to play if you don't have atleast as many chips as bb.

    With low blinds these are just annoying, but with bigger ones it becomes a real issue. These certainly have to be fixed before tournamet play is introduced. In late stages of tournament blinds will be so big that these bugs could have serious effects on the outcome of the tournament.

    26. Mars 2009, 16:45:46
    Fencer 
    Sujet: Re:
    puupia: Why should you be allowed to play if you don't have at least BB number of chips?

    26. Mars 2009, 16:46:54
    Bwild 
    Sujet: Re:
    Fencer:the term "all in" comes to mind

    26. Mars 2009, 17:01:50
    puupia 
    Sujet: Re:
    Fencer: "If you have chip and a chair you can win" is one the most famous lines in poker. In 1982 WSOP Jack Strauss actually came back to win the tournament after being down to just one chip.

    You're just not supposed to be out of the game before you really are out of chips. Of course there will be sidepots like in any other all in situation when someone does not have enough to pay BB.

    26. Mars 2009, 17:05:43
    bobwhoosta 
    Sujet: Re: Less Than Big Blind Kicked Out.
    Fencer: There are three scenarios Puupia is reffering too.

    Case 1: Unable to go All-In mid-hand - In this scenario, if someone is in the middle of the hand he is unable to go all-in if he holds less than the Big Blind in his stack. This prevents players from making that little bit of extra money when they hit their hand after betting has dwindled their stack size. Their bet will mostly be called, so when someone gets a monster hand, they'll be slightly miffed that they can't go all-in.

    Case 2: Cash Games - In this scenario, a person sitting at the table who has lost most of their chips still has an all-in move available pre-flop (For instance, in 100/200 blinds a person with 190 chips can sit around for one round waiting for a good hand, then try and triple up). In this instance, the person would be well advised to get out with their remaining chips, as any all-in move holds absolutely no clout and they will most likely lose their chips. BUT, that decision could be left up to them.

    Case 2: Tournament Play - When tournaments come into play, this will become a VERY big problem, as someone with less chips than the big blind is by the rules of tournament Hold-'Em STILL a part of the tournament, and their chips are still in play. In the situation where someone is kicked out, we have two breaches of the rules. First, they have been unfairly eliminated, as by the rules they are still in the game (albeit with a very slim chance of winning). Second, their chips are still in play, and if that 1000 in chips (Assuming 1000/2000 blinds, not uncommon at the end of extremely long tournaments) is taken out of the tournament, it becomes unfair not only to the player eliminated, but to those remaining in the tournament, as they are deprived of precious opportunities to improve their stack size with very little risk.

    I hope this clarifies things, and as an aside I would like to say that I think your poker implementation is very good, especially for a first attempt on this site not only for a game different than a board game, but also for a live play event. We all understand your efforts, and though it is not often expressed, your work is very much appreciated.

    -Zak Smith

    26. Mars 2009, 17:12:06
    Fencer 
    Sujet: Re: Less Than Big Blind Kicked Out.
    bobwhoosta: I am always grateful for a clarification of the rules because I am not aware of all details and special situations. But everything can be done, sooner or later.

    26. Mars 2009, 16:46:12
    Bwild 
    Sujet: Re:
    puupia:I agree...I've won tournaments after being down to 5 chips.....chip and a chair

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