Snoopy: ah but Snoopy...it is a well known fact that most unemployed bludgers DON'T want to work,...why should they, they are given everything...enough money for smokes, grog, internet, and a bit left over for food...why work. As long as the kids are in school they can drink themselves to death, take drugs and generally not want to improve their lives at all. Take their council flats/homes off them and MAKE them work...things would fast change

Snoopy: OOOOOOOOOH I cant wait for the reaction to that post LOL

Snoopy: we have had "privatisation" as selling off is called over here....and what has happened....the products have gotten dearer. For instance, electricity, telephones and the like.

Artful Dodger: I was pulled up rather rudely with all the filthy language thrown in as she pointed out it was 25 billion dollars and not pounds, but it was also said it was 16 billion pounds which was a LOT different to the 3billion(V) was talking about....

I stand corrected of course HAHAHAHAHA

Artful Dodger:

(V): thats funny they keep saying £25B, or do you know something else?


***The Times of London and BBC News contributed to this report***. - what does this mean at the end of the story then?

Pedro Martínez:

Artful Dodger: it has been law in australia for years as well and what do you see everyday??? people using phones while driving...
The hardest thing to do in heavy traffic is to pull over to answer a phone and it has been found that less than 2% of people use their phone (hand -held) while driving.

I'm surprised at the 2% as you see it happening all the time....young girls seem to be the worst, with tradies a good second.

Artful Dodger:Let me assure you the "I inherited a mess" card will go on for years....we had that happen over here...

thankfully australia seems to be on the up and up.

they seem to think we are nearly thru and done with the recession or whatever they want to call it.

Artful Dodger: the people are of the same opinion over here....completely unwarranted, and as you said they must think people are stupid.

Artful Dodger:

Pedro Martínez:

Bwild:

Übergeek 바둑이: over moderating by someone who thinks they know better ROFLMBO

it sounds like it is about time the UK made voting compulsory as it is in australia....that would definately change the outlook on your "parties" and give a truer indication of what the people want, surely.

Bwild: ROFL @ yomama

Übergeek 바둑이: thanks for that :)

did you know that the aboriginal people of australia weren't given the vote until 1975 or there abouts...

but I do believe that they only vote because the law says they have to....

Übergeek 바둑이: ***They know ahead of time who is going to win, ***

if that is the case then, why vote?

Jim Dandy: unless it is ENglish or American there wouldnt be any knowledge of other countries politics, and as Artful Dodger told someone on here their ignorance of american politics was showing etc etc....it would be the same with other countries unless you could get someone from Sweden it would all be the usual CCp that we seem to get now.

Baby left to die for being 'too young'

NEWS.com.au

9 September 2009

A DEVASTATED mother claims doctors refused to treat her pre-mature baby because it was born two days early.

A DEVASTATED mother claims doctors refused to treat her premature baby because it was born two days early.

The tiny boy from the UK - born 21 weeks and five days into her pregnancy - died just two hours after being born, The Daily Mail reports.

Sarah Capewell, who has suffered five miscarriages previously, said she went into early labour and was told her newborn would be dead once delivered.

But after discovering her son, Jayden, had a strong heart beat and was moving his arms and legs, she called doctors and begged them to help.

Ms Capewell said doctors refused, saying medical guidelines state that "babies born before 22 weeks are not viable and are not to be helped".

She claims doctors at James Paget Hospital in Norfolktold told her that they would have tried to save the baby if he had been born two days later, at 22 weeks.

According to the Daily Mail, she told one paediatrician, "You have got to help", only for the man to respond: "No we don't."

"When I went into labour I was told he would be born dead, disabled and his skin would most likely be peeling off, in actual fact he was perfect," she wrote on her website Justice for Jayden.

"As you can see from his pic he was born alive, he was responsive and lived without help for nearly 2 hours.

"Reguardless of this doctors refused to come and see him let alone consider helping him."

A hospital official said it not t blame for setting the nation's guidelines and "like other acute hospitals, we follow national guidance".

Ms Capewell is now campaigning to make the Government to change the law.

"This is down to government legislation stating that babies born before 22 weeks are not viable and are not to be helped," she said.

"Now I'm asking for your help in changing legislation so other families don't have to suffer unnessisarily."

Pedro Martínez: well said

stop quibbling over what you have and haven't got...

think on this???

http://livenews.com.au/life/overworked-queensland-doctors-admit-to-killing-patients/2009/9/7/218565

Übergeek 바둑이: try this link it has even more information.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529548,00.html?test=latestnews

?????really???? don't you mean the Germans were closer than anybody else to having nuclear weapons, the Jet Bomber was NOT carrying nukes.

it is all talk, Big talk about a plane that never flew (and still hasn't).

Now before you pounce on me about what has been written, I have just typed this as a WW2 pilot, who flew for germany was telling me. He wants to know where you got your misleading statements/information from?

must be "benefit day" no reaction...lower class benefits...

Artful Dodger: I agree with ScarletRose and you AD....it is the 'nere do nothings of the earth that expect everything for nothing...........

Artful Dodger: that is the same link that GTCharlie put up....so you probably get the same "Duck shoving" type of answer

Pedro Martínez: Lord help us...I'd hate to think

Czuch: he probably did a "significant" amount of reading....no job...nothing better to do....nooooooooooo....hehehe

Czuch: ya think this has anything to do with the fact that they can earn more doing something else???

spot on

(V): you still talk crap.... ***shakes head***

Übergeek 바둑이: Oh Boy....I can't wait for Jules to come on...From "god's own Country"..nothing can compare to the UK.
I would love to know where he lives and exactly what his standards are.

If everything is as good as he says, why is it that poor Snoopy doesn't recognise or understand what country he is talking about LOL.....

I can understand he thinks his "country" is the best at everything but he does take it a bit too far.

gogul: ummmmmmmmmm......I was being facetious.

Übergeek 바둑이: ??
does that mean that Americans are more unhealthy than Canadians or does it mean the wages are higher in the USA

silence is golden....until the "stuff" hits the fan hahahahahahaha

Czuch: you will never win ROFLMBO

Czuch: ROFL

Czuch: having been married to a plasterer/tiler....a breeze block is a block with holes in it....lets the air through

http://www.besserblockcentre.com.au/newsite/html/screen_blocks.html

(V): I know what roadkill is, but are they more clever in NZ than they are in UK? they were introduced to NZ and are now a pest...*shakes head*

no need to look on giggle...bing is the go.

(V): where did you get the bit about hedgehogs "learning" not to crawl into a ball? They only turn themselves into a ball if they are threatened, how do they know a car is a threat? and why hasnt it happened in NZ...they do have cars there you know. LOL

CCP*****Hedgehogs are a powerful form of pest control. A single hedgehog can keep an average garden free of pests by eating up to 200 grams of insects each night. It is common throughout the United Kingdom to see people attempting to lure hedgehogs into their gardens with treats and hedgehog-sized holes in their fences.[citation needed]

One problem with using hedgehogs for garden pest control is the use of chemical insecticide. While the hedgehog is large enough to resist most insecticides, it cannot withstand them if it eats many insects which have become full of the poison. This causes many hedgehog deaths where pet hedgehogs eat contaminated bugs within the house.

In areas where hedgehogs have been introduced, such as New Zealand and the islands of Scotland, the hedgehog itself has become a pest. In New Zealand it causes immense damage to native species including insects, snails, lizards and ground-nesting birds, particularly shore birds. As with many introduced animals, it lacks natural predators. With overpopulation, it kills off more insects than initially intended and expands its diet to include things such as snails, worms, and the eggs of wading birds.

Correcting overpopulation is troublesome itself. Attempts to eliminate hedgehogs from bird colonies on the Scottish islands of North Uist and Benbecula in the Outer Hebrides were met with international outrage. Eradication began in 2003 with 690 hedgehogs being killed. Animal welfare groups attempted rescues to save the hedgehogs. By 2007, legal injunctions against the killing of hedgehogs were put in place. In 2008, the elimination process was changed from killing the hedgehogs to trapping them and releasing on the mainland.

Vikings: I love your number 3 idea..........makes sense LOL

it has just been announced that the Govt. is considering raising the Medicare contribution to 2.5% to try and improve on waiting lists etc. They are also going on about having to wait in emergency departments for anything up to 12 hours....now that is bad. How can that be improved upon when they won't employ more nurses, who by the way....over here aren't employed by the hospital boards, they come under a "nursing pool"

In Australia EVERY working man, woman pay 1.5% of their earnings. It is called Medicare. Our system is shocking and the only way is to go private.
Over a month ago I had cause to go to a Dr. No problem getting an appointment to see him but he was so over worked I had to wait an hour to get to see him...my visit wasnt good news and I had to have a day surgery procedure done. He gave me a referring letter to a PRIVATE specialist and also sent a referral to the specialist in the local hospital. I had to wait 3 weeks to see the specialist, went on the tuesday and was in hospital on the thursday....$2500 later my problem was fixed. 3 days after my op I got the appointment to see the PUBLIC specialist...but that wasnt for another month. I could have gotten the same procedure done at no cost but I would have been a damn site sicker by then.

AD is right when he says there are waiting lists to go on waiting lists LOL....Jules I don't think your system is any better than it is here. My GF is a pom now living in Australia and she reckons the health system there is terrible. She was living/working on the outskirts of London.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/17482.htm

gogul: I would never have thought that Iran was such a beautiful country....I always thought of it as barren for some reason.....thanks for the link.

Übergeek 바둑이: It must be a "sign of the times", but what we have read about teenagers in other parts of the world for so long now seems to be happening in Australia....perhaps it is worse when it happens "in our own backyard"


***and thanks for editing the link***

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25817632-2862,00.html

here is the link ....I didnt realise that 4 teenagers from the same school had committed hari-kari.....so sad.

Übergeek 바둑이: she was bullied via the internet and also her school from what I can see.....I will try and find a link.

what do you think of "cyber bullying?"

A 14 yo school girl committed suicide last friday night after being bullied on the internet.....the Govt. is now investigating what can be done about "bullying" on the internet.

**I'm sorry about bringing it here but couldnt think of anywhere else it would be accepted"**

Czuch:

you are all over the map,

could that be called evasive action?</i>

(V): Or do you feel Parents don't work in looking after kids

of course parents work in looking after kids......BUT....why cant the "bludgers" do what the average man- woman does that has a family.....go to work, earn money and stop bludging off the system.....there is way too much of it...