If you wish to childishly down grade me because I wish to leave perhaps you could ask me why first??? Its not that I wish to down grade fencer for the site he has put together. Its not money, heck $28 is mearly dinner out. And I did test the site out before joining. I asked fencer for a refund which he is unwilling to give. I am the only one left here out of my whole chess team and have no reason to stay. They all left because fencer wasnt fixing problems they were experiencing....now I have no need to stay...you can still find me at goldtoken.com as Badger...look me up. They got great games there and I have been a gold paying memember there for 4 years...6 at itsyourturn.com!!! Its sad....there are 25 members on my chess team..all paying full membership at GT. They were really excited about brainking till the problems started popping up and they were not getting fixed. At least I was willing to PAY for my game playing honestly..I believe in paying for the efforts a webmaster puts together for our benifit and not being a "freebee" player who plays under an assortment of names so she can get in all the games she wants. So next time you want to chide someones desire to leave...think twice before putting your foot in your mouth. It makes you look bad.