crosseyed: Yes, and especially today. I'm constantly trying to trick the gremlin who is tricking me. If reloading doesn't work I have a few bk pages on my favorites list, so I can leave and come back. This seems to work, but today I'm having to do it more than usual. Fencer said it has nothing to do with this site, but with the various server stations our signals travel through. I don't believe that, I say it's gremlins who are doing it.