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31. december 2012, 14:28:19
Mort 
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rod03801: You've not got the point that if they don't work out a compromise that tax rises and spending cuts will happen that could push the USA back into recession.

You don't understand the difference between a controlled change that won't hurt the majority of Americans and also effect global markets, and an uncontrolled change that will! The whole idea it seems was to cut spending and to have a small increase in taxes that will only affect the top 2-3% of earners.

Are YOU WILLING to pay the extra tax that will come if no deal can be reached? An extra $2,000 - $3,500 per year.. you are happy to pay that?

Such incompetence even is recognised by retiring Republicans....."send a message worldwide that we don't have the capacity to work across political aisles on critical issues"....

If no compromise is reached, it just shows your whole political system is just one big joke. It would be an absolute laughable matter, is were not for the harm that Joe Public will suffer because of some pouting republican members tied to the Tea Party.. and paid by the party's masters to be complete idiots.

31. december 2012, 16:20:07
rod03801 
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(V): It's a fundamental difference. I repeat, these "pouting republican members" were VOTED in with the expectation that they would do this. If mine gives in, she won't be getting my vote next time.

This "controlled change" as you call it, WILL not DO ANY good. There has to be a SEVERE cut in the way our government keeps growing.

I don't expect you to agree. It's not unusual.

31. december 2012, 18:38:18
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Ämne: Re:
rod03801: They were voted in to mess your country up. Well, in that case they are doing a fine job. Is your government really growing.. or the costs the likes of DoD got out of control.

...How long is it going to be until the cost of the bogus war in Iraq gonna be paid off?

I don't expect you to like this... that ain't unusual either. But it is a fact.

1. januari 2013, 00:29:05
rod03801 
Ämne: Re:
(V): I completely disagree. Thankfully you don't have a vote here.

1. januari 2013, 03:28:19
Iamon lyme 
Ämne: Re:
rod03801: Oh, please... everyone who is anyone (or anyone who is everyone) knows that government is not affected or ruled by the same economic principles the rest of us have to deal with. Governement is a magical entity that can spend more than it takes in because, uh, because they are the ones in charge... yeah, that's why. And it's only by sucking up to the ones in charge that any of us can hope for change in our fortunes... like the alternative energy companies, who knew their government funded ventures would eventually fold before too long. Why else would some of them receive parts for manufacture that would go directly into the dumpsters? Did they expect the random forces of magical evolution could take parts intended for human assembly and they would self assemble (by themselves) in those dumpters? And on top of that it should be noted... Uh oh, wait a sec... I'm starting to sound like a conservative again. No wonder I could never make it as a liberal, because as V has already noted (if he can remember back that far) I tend to think too much. Too much thinking leads to too many thoughts, and too many thoughts lead to too many other thoughts... and so on and so forth. After a while too many thoughts can crowd out memories of wild college parties and... Actually, I'd rather forget about all that.


Anywho, never expect a liberal to explain how deficit spending (or anything for that matter) is able to work. You'll almost always get an explanation that has nothing to do with it. For instance, paying off a war or two is a ridiculous argument, because those wars didn't put us into hock for the extra trillions of dollars we will soon be accountable for... since when has any war the US has fought cost more than the currently upcoming taxation that will be levied to pay for excessive spending on non essentials? And they are able to do this (as if by magic) by simply redefining what the word "essential" means.


I haven't spouted off for a few weeks, so I wanted to do something to help usher in the new year. heh heh heh heh heh heh...

By the way, if the world can end just because a Mayan 'calander' reaches the end of its cycle (the end of a very long cycle), then why doesn't the world come to an end every year when our calanders run out?

1. januari 2013, 12:01:21
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Ämne: Re:Thankfully you don't have a vote here.
rod03801: Nope I have a vote here. Where spending cuts and some tax rises have reduced the UK's deficit. Shameful to you maybe.. but it is working.

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