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3. Novembro 2004, 00:36:15
mclaudio 
And there are a limit time or not in "auto-vacation"... If he don´t play anymore I can´t participated in no more tournaments. It´s not fair! In my opinion...

3. Novembro 2004, 00:35:30
Stevie 
Its bothering me also, that player has auto vacationed for a week now on games with me LOL

3. Novembro 2004, 00:33:46
rod03801 
Basically, Yes. He has selected "auto-vacation".. so that games will not time out, for as many vacation days as he has left..

3. Novembro 2004, 00:32:07
mclaudio 
Another point...see the game Id=426320. The last move from klokan was in 5 October...why the guy don´t lose? its because he is a paid membership ?

3. Novembro 2004, 00:28:42
mclaudio 
Ups...ok! I only see that resign game today...:-)
ok! its explained...now I can go to the bed tranquil because the brainking don´t steel points to portuguese checkers ... lol ...

3. Novembro 2004, 00:24:15
Stevie 
but you have only won 1 game today, the other was 31 october

3. Novembro 2004, 00:24:10
rod03801 
Hmmm... send Fencer a message. I'm sure he will look at it for you, and either fix it, or explain why it is correct.

3. Novembro 2004, 00:21:36
mclaudio 
Yes... I looked and the score was: yesterday: 1960... today a resign game +19 points, a winner gain: + 20 points.... and my actual score = 1979!
well I´m a university teacher and I still count. For me 1960 + 20 + 19 = 1999 and not 1979...

3. Novembro 2004, 00:15:02
coan.net 
mclaudio - What do you think the problem is? I'm looking at Graph for the past few days, and it looks normal to me.

Are you complaining that you this it is too low?

3. Novembro 2004, 00:12:40
rod03801 
Have you looked at the Messages in your message box, at the mathematics of the BKR changes of those games?

3. Novembro 2004, 00:06:51
Stevie 
excuse me, you asked a question, I was only answering. If you give a complete explanation then there willbe no confusion.
By the way....what does naif mean?

3. Novembro 2004, 00:01:49
mclaudio 
Hei! Yesterday I haved 1960! Don´t be naif with me! Fencer look to your Database and see what happened ! tks!

2. Novembro 2004, 23:43:23
Stevie 
looks to me like the 20 point win took you to 1960, then the 19 point win took you to 1979 :o)

2. Novembro 2004, 23:33:45
mclaudio 
Hi, A win the lasts 2 games with 20 points and 19 points...I haved 1960...and now I only have 1979? why...its a bug ?

31. Outubro 2004, 19:14:01
Rasec 
And about Angola Checkers?
We play with rocks and always that we have a queen, we jump and we moan equal to one rinoceronte!! this a good variant too. What you think Fencer?

30. Outubro 2004, 08:19:06
Nightstorm 
Pawns are now able to posts again. Sorry a few ruin it for the masses.

29. Outubro 2004, 09:07:14
sobek 
Assunto: rules of czech draughts - oficialy in czech republic
Czech draughts is more 200 years old checkers variant. Rules is identicaly as english checkers with this diferent: King (in czech draughts Queen) has long movie, The move capturing the most pieces is not mandatory but in jumb has Queen priority before pieses and Captured pieces remain on the board until the move is completed and cannot jumb 2x cross one piece

29. Outubro 2004, 00:57:11
Nightstorm 
I have removed all off topic posts. PauloGomes and eiaur have been banned from posting until further notice. Pawns posts will be approved for the time being. Now take it back to czech checkers discussions or take it elsewhere.

28. Outubro 2004, 21:38:11
coan.net 
Even though it's not really anyone busness except for Pedro's on who he has on his enemies list, but it look like Paulo has changed his nick sometime in the past - which sometime in the past Pedro had this person on their enemy list.... which means he was on there for a reason - nothing probable has changed.

28. Outubro 2004, 18:50:39
Fencer 
Maybe in the future.

28. Outubro 2004, 18:23:51
Taxinha 
For finish this discussion, there is any possibility to be created a new variant of Checkers? With Portuguese/Spanish rules?

28. Outubro 2004, 18:47:04
Stevie 
The moderator will approve the posts, so legitamate pawns can still post via the moderator.
And the likes of Paulogomes/Eiaur (yes they are one person) will still be able to post as long as its czech checkers related

28. Outubro 2004, 15:44:00
Stevie 
Assunto: FENCER
When I said its unfair,
I was on about Bad Bishops comment about Portuguese. I could see he is someone who has something against them from his first comment.

I think now that youve read all the posts since then...you will see that my hunch was right.
I would not say he is racist towards them, but I would say he is being prejudist.

There is no need to go against them as a whole like on this board, so would like to see most of it removed. So as not to hurt any of my Portuguese friends on here. (even though there are a couple of bad cookies in the bunch...but thats no diferent from all nationalities)

Could it now go back to Czech checkers board rather than a membership payments discussion and who can or cant afford it.


I bet ive shocked you now by being serious for a change ;oÞ

28. Outubro 2004, 13:33:07
Fencer 
BB: I am not much happy about this idea but everything can be considered, of course.

27. Outubro 2004, 15:23:29
pauloaguia 
Fencer, you can find them on the site I posted earlier as well... I think the main difference is that you must make allways the maximum captures as possible (you can't choose between capturing one or two pieces - must go for the two) and you can choose between a pawn and a queen to make the capture (provided they both have the possibility to capture the same maximum number of opponent's pieces).
Oh, and the board is turned (main diagonal from upper left to lower right).

27. Outubro 2004, 15:02:23
Fencer 
What are the portugese/spanish rules exactly?

27. Outubro 2004, 15:01:15
Pedro Martínez 
I've been playing Czech Checkers since I was a kid and the Queen had always precedence as to jumping the opponents pieces. If you have a possibility to jump with your Queen, you have to do so. Period. That's the rule. And that's how it's been played here for decades, at least. If you have problems with this rule, there's one simple solution for you: don't play this variant. Plus it is very sick to demand a draw and put your opponent on your enemies list just because he follows the rules. In case you want to play any game on this site, I recommend to read the rules first.

27. Outubro 2004, 14:26:01
PauloGomes 
why not create a new game with portuguese/spanish rules? If you see, the portuguese Ferjo is the best player in almost any checkers variations and the portuguese fans.
There are only a few differences ... so, why not?

27. Outubro 2004, 14:12:27
Fencer 
There is no bug in the rules. Czech Checkers is just a variant played in our country and the rules details had been consulted with top Czech Checkers players.

27. Outubro 2004, 14:12:09
pauloaguia 
No bug. Just found a site with many checkers variations... In the Czech version, the queen capture precedence is also noted there...
It's just us portuguese that are used to a different type of checkers.

27. Outubro 2004, 14:02:44
Oliveira 
I saw that game and I also believe Paulogomes should win. I believe thats a bug in the rules..but isnt hard to correct it, I guess.

27. Outubro 2004, 11:00:36
PauloGomes 
Then it is thus, the responsible one for the site limited to say that nothing will be moved. Where is the argument and where is the reasons so the rules are thus? Clearly ,nothing can be move at this moment, but would have to be opened a quarrel forum on possible changes. Thanks any way Fencer.

27. Outubro 2004, 08:03:49
Fencer 
Nothing will be changed.

27. Outubro 2004, 00:48:53
Stevie 
I would have prefered you had found it out when playing someone other than me though LOL I was relying on that to get an advantage :o( LOL

26. Outubro 2004, 23:54:15
pauloaguia 
Just found out another thing. There used to be possible to reverse motion to make a capture (for instance, queen in F6 and opponent pawns in G5 and E3, the queen could capture them both in one move by jumping first to H6 and then go back to capture the other pawn).
I only knew this rule here at brainking and it allways caught me by surprise when it happened to me...
Very well, it's not possible anymore :) (I prefer it that way).

26. Outubro 2004, 16:23:15
Taxinha 
PauloGomes should win, he has a better game and that rule, in my opinion, is a bad rule.

26. Outubro 2004, 16:19:12
pauloaguia 
I bet ocnibulva prefers it the way it is ;)

However, I also have some problems with this rule. The rules for the "portuguese checkers" state that a piece must capture as many opponent's pieces as possibleand of the strongest type as possible... but any piece can capture if there is more than one option, as long as the number captured is the same... And it looks like the "English checkers" are different as well... at least trusting on Stevie's opinion...

But then again I never played checkers outside of Portugal... just a question: is this really how checkers are played in Czech Republic or is it a bug introduced when the other one was corrected?

How many national variants are there for this game anyway? Is there a site that lists them all?

26. Outubro 2004, 16:01:26
PauloGomes 
Fencer, if you procede to a statistical movement you will see that every one discord of this rule, so in fact that must be change.

26. Outubro 2004, 15:36:33
Stevie 
Unfortunately, I would agree that you should win that, but with the present rules, you will be losing your queen in a couple of moves and they will gain a queen and you will most likely lose the game

26. Outubro 2004, 15:34:31
Stevie 

26. Outubro 2004, 15:33:31
Stevie 
Thats a five in line game ;o)

26. Outubro 2004, 15:32:16
PauloGomes 
Please, all users have attencion to the game ID 20355 between PauloGomes Vs ocnibulva
I think that is a win for me, but the rules, wrong rules in fact, are: "If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them.However, when a king or queen can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with."
What you think Fencer?

25. Outubro 2004, 10:35:43
Fencer 
Uh-oh :-)

25. Outubro 2004, 06:56:09
Nightstorm 
Sorry BBW. It was posted to the parachute board. Thats the one game that you get the draw after about 4 moves and pretty much made everyone who played it quit. But now all the varients play a lot different and are much better.

25. Outubro 2004, 06:42:05
coan.net 
Steve - I agree 100% - It's a GREAT rule change - I'm actually looking forward to playing some more games now. I'm just somewhat upset me that I did not know about the big rule change.

I wasn't complaining about the rule change - just that I guess I was in the dark about it for so long.... :-(

25. Outubro 2004, 06:27:15
Stevie 
BUt it has made the game closer to real now anyways BBW.
The bug was a known bug by players of the checkers variants. It allowed too many cases of draws etc because of the ways that queens move.
So all thats been done, is that the game now plays nearer to properly. So go back to bed LMAO

25. Outubro 2004, 05:45:28
coan.net 
Yea, posted that a bug was fixed, not that rules where changed.

When I read that, I just figured there was a bug somewhere - not that the rules where actually changed!

But I'm beter now. :-)

25. Outubro 2004, 05:25:49
Nightstorm 
No it was also posted by Fencer on the server news.
1. September 2004, 03:45:31
Besides, lots of bugs was fixed (e.g. multiple jumps in Czech Checkers) and added several improvements.
Reply

24. Outubro 2004, 22:10:52
coan.net 
Well I never liked how the checker rules are setup with "see other game", and then their are other differences which confilict - so a lot of time to find out minor rules, you just have to play around with it.

what gets me is such an important rule change was just posted in here. ugh.

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