I think anyone who wants to make one of these random teams can do it now - so thats not really unfair - are we all so upset because we think the rules of the classic school yard pick are being messed with? Are we afraid we will only be left with losers to play on our teams? Im pretty sure the people joining up on these random teams did so out of choice - not because they were picked out of a lineup and had no choice but to comply - isnt that they way all teams are formed? Everyone can make this team if they want to - and everyone can pick what team they want to be on - geeeezzz - why all the drama?

Hrqls:Well hopefully when a random team is added, Fencer will just erase all current ones to make it fair to all fellowships in the chance to get people to join theirs - without having a few fellowship get a big head start in getting players to join - and in turn putting other fellowships at a disadvantage to get players to join their team.

some people (including me) asked for random teams as it seemed a nice addition to the team of single game types .. this would make it possible to create team tournaments in which the teams would play random games .. fun! ;)

it was suggested this to fencer only a few weeks ago .. so i was positively amazed that it was in the progress of being implemented already .. its great when a site owner listens to suggestions from its members and implements some of them
(some of my suggestions havent been implemented, its up to fencer to decide what would be a nice addition :))

madmonkey found the random teams by accident and shared it on this board .. which is a nice thing to do .. that way the random team isnt only accessable for a few members, but every fellowship can create his random team
(go to a team of your fellowship and in the url change the number of the team to 255 .. you can see which number when you compare the urls of 2 teams of the same fellowships) .. i joined a random team as well .. after i read madmonkeys post (in which he explained how to do it)

the random teams are still in the progress of being created though and isnt completely active yet .. thats why fencer probably didnt announce it in public yet

any member is free to explore the site .. and it would be nice if (s)he finds anything (s)he would post it on a board (if its a bug it would be best to post it in the bug tracker) if its something which can be abues dont post it on a public board though but send in a pm .. if its something nice (like this random teams .. which gives a little insight in the future :)) .. post it here (or somewhere else)

i think its great that this site is still developing and new things are being added

It's still not a huge interview but I think I have enough questions for Bubbles Pbarb2 . Anybody still wanting to contribute, please send me your questions during this weekend...

I'll be announcing the next person next week.

This issue seems to me to have been blown a tad out of proportion.

I saw Mad Monkey's post to do with it and thought it an interesting idea. With his help I set up one team in each of my fellowships to see if the members wanted them. Judging from the way people have joined the teams it appeals to quite a few.

WellyWales:  I have to confess I am totally befuddled about the uproar over this issue.  Seems to me some folks with a lot of time on their hands are making a huge fuss over nothing.  Think of directing all that reforming energy out into the real world where it could actually do some good ...

Having said that, this is a user-supported site, and I would expect Fencer to take the users' wishes into account.  What I would prefer not to see is the same people posting the same complaint over and over again.

All this does not seem right to me, we all want this to be a fair game site equal to all.

I propose that Fencer scrap all Random Game teams, there should not be a way of building up teams before it is open to every fellowship, I can see this being abused,
I think we all want a level playing field here

alanback:

alanback:

TarantinoFan:  You could call the testing fellowship the "Beta Blockers" 

Snoopy: And these things need to be tried out. As I said with the current feeling on BK at the moment, releasing a new thing that doesn't work would only cause more problems.

I think Andersp idea of a testing f/s is a good one. I would be part of that to try out things and work out bugs and help tweak the games to make them right before they are realeased

Andersp: I am not one of Fencer's Testers. In fact just the other day I was a "certain user".

Your idea has merit though. Because I thought of exactly the same thing.

pauloaguia:
i might well of missed the point of the very first post on this and im sorry to anyone if i did
but i saw another case of cloning gammon happening again where ppl got to play that game before the masses

Snoopy: We know GOD and he gave us the down low on upcoming creations!

Snoopy: they aren't trying... they're just exploring bugs... but if you want to try it to, just add the string tp=255 to the end of your fellowship page URL and you'll find a "random game" team you can join to... but that you can do nothing with :P

Snoopy: I'm sure if you had done what Nirvana and I both did, ie PM Mad Monkey, he would have told you the exact same thing he told us. It doesn't work yet but here's how to do it anyway.

TarantinoFan:
and the point im making and will keep making it
however it was found why should one fellowship or now 3 have an advantage over every other fellowship
and has Madmonkey said earlier it dosnt actually exist on BK yet how can you try out something that dosnt exist

Snoopy:  I'll give ya $5 for it!

Snoopy: Please stop shouting.

This random team was found by accident when Mad Monkey was doing a completely different thing.

He started his team as an experiment to see what would happen.

Nirvana and I both found the concept interesting so we PM'd Mad Monkey to ask about it.

Mad Monkey and I set up a team to see if the challenge would even start yet. As you know by reading the original message that has caused all this drama, nothing has happened with that challenge as yet.

My message to Mad Monkey on the subject was to leave it and wait and see. All great things come from trial and error. If we have it ready to go we can test it and let Fencer know of any bugs etc so that he can release it to the paying members in good order and without a lot of bugs etc.

I'm sorry that you find our experiments so detrimental to the other f/s but I think releasing an untested, untried new thing on the site at the moment would be a lot more detrimental, not only to your f/s but also to the site as a whole. With the recent upset over BK being down quite a lot a new thing that doesn't work properly wouldn't go down very well with the frustrated paying customer.

Andersp:
i swap my black rook for anything right now

MadMonkey:   I would rather be a computer engineer than a Black Rook, so i absolutely dont consider myself better than you!

MadMonkey:
i was not trying to create trouble and i was not butting in
i was asking why one fellowship should have a very clear advantage of building up a team on what is NOT AVAILABLE TO EVERY PAYING CUSTOMER

MadMonkey:  You are quite correct to conclude that messages intended only for one person should not be posted publicly.  (With the possible exception of Thoughts and Prayers.)  Message boards are intended for everyone to read and comment on anything posted here.

MadMonkey: I do not agree. I did not reply to cause conflit. If someone does not agree with what I say as you don,t. That is not conflit to me. That is your right as is Snoppy,s or anyone elses.

MadMonkey:  Even we "Certain users" / Trolls appreciate that you are helping Fencer build Brain King, please accept our sincere THANK YOU!

Mousetrap: If i address this to you (as i have), i expect you to read it and reply if you wish, as i would any form of communication addressed to anyone individually.

Some just reply to things to create problems & conflict as this has just proved

MadMonkey: Everyone is alowed their say. Just because someone does not agree with you does not mean they are butting in. It would not pay for all trees to be privots.

Fencer: Sorry about this post earlier that was addressed to you

In future i will PM you about everything as others can not help butting in with trivial comments

The idea of this board is for everybody who is interested in BrainKing itself, its structure, features and future or is it not

OR is it about sulking because others are trying to help build BrainKing and others are not, they find more fun in moaning rather than trying to improve things

Well according to some, JUST because they have a Black Rook it makes them better than everyone else, well let them think that.

I know personally what do for the site

If there are issues that need addressing by yourself or just need mentioning, i will do it if i think it is necessary.

Try to think constructive, then things may happen

Andersp:
yep
being a black rook sucks big time

Snoopy: Remember there are "Certain users" 

MadMonkey:
so if it hasnt been introduced at all why are you asking
why your team challenge match hasnt started
because surely something that hasnt been introduced cant possible start

Snoopy: It has not been introduced at all

Its a bug that i found after creating a Random Tournament. It is something i guess Fencer is working on !!

MadMonkey:
but has i said before it should be introduced at the same time for everyone
why should a few in the know gets things
after all we are all paying members
brings to mind when cloning backgammon was first introduced some players in the know got to play it ages before everyone else did

Snoopy: You have to change the URL to team 255, and there is the random Team, but as Fencer said last week, it is not finished yet, but you can build a Team ready

MadMonkey:
so where are they
hardly seems fair when some are gaven a chance to create teams when most dont even have that option

Snoopy: all Fellowships have them, well Nirvana & Tarantino asked me where they were and they have them

MadMonkey:
might be more helpfull if all fellowships got these options at the same time

Fencer: Set up a challenge match last night for random game. It set up fine, but just stays in waiting.

Is that because you have not finished it yet ?

Rose: Funny you should say that

I Archive all Tournament winners for a week to post them at the same time, as i run so many. When i tried at the weekend to go through all last weeks, several of them would not open OR were just blank

I do not know if this is the same message problem as a couple of weeks ago i reported to Fencer, when trying to reply to a message from someone it would not give me a box to write in. He fixed that though but i had to tell him who the message was for

I'm having issues with archived messages.. I scroll  down to reread
what I had written and only half the message is there.. the 'rest' is sort of
cut off to the far right... Wonder if anyone else has had that happen?

tonyh: Sorry, seems like Paulo had the right idea for you...

Czuch: I want to get rid of the message thing on the top left of the screen. I've tried 'no fonts' but that does not remove the three titles.

tonyh: I use the no fonts, try it.

tonyh: for now, with a custom stylesheet where you set the visibility of "style-switcher" to none

How may I get rid of the 'Castle - Simple - No fonts' at the top?

alanback: thanks :)

alanback: Good. It's getting too close to Purplephobia. lol