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21. Marraskuu 2003, 21:41:02
berengeria2 
Otsikko: Re: In my own life time experience..
i played on IYT for a while and one thing i noticed was there were more numerous chat sites. for example, there were two general chat sites - one devoted to more-or-less normal posts and the other a sort of weird free-fire zone.
a problem here may be that this site, which is intended for a specific topic, has become a sort of catch-all.

21. Marraskuu 2003, 21:22:09
ScarletRose 
Otsikko: In my own life time experience..
I have learned you can't please EVERYONE!!..

And as general knowledge... no company, or gamesite will ever be free of those who do cheat.. or lie.. or are dishonest in anyway..

Think about it peeps.. there will always be flaming.. there will always be those who offend Someone.. what Fencer will need to decide is if he allows ANYONE to monopolize this site, to control others actions or personalities.. he will end up loosing X amount of current players.. as well as future ones..

His reputation for remaining silent.. is not only angering those who have paid.. but, is also making those at pawn level more leary about supporting this site.. and one thing I know for sure.. Is Word of Mouth Goes A LONG way..

What Fencer should be doing instead of playing turns on his games.. is to do investigating himself.. for instance.. contacting other WebMasters.. such as Pat Chu of IYT and the Owners of Gold Token.. But, not as a means to discredit or get demeaning or degrading gossip.. but, for marketing purposes.. such as the ratio of site violators compared to the honest and sincere..

Pat Chu.. although, has similar problems with his site.. has at least NEVER had this type of harrassment .. and I am not naming any names here.. but, just offering a suggestion..

May I also include.. that all this bickering on these boards.. is doing NO good.. all it is doing is creating more flames.. and more attitudes..

21. Marraskuu 2003, 21:10:17
Usurper 
Otsikko: The Issue At Hand
I agree with many who are concerned with Gothic's threats and Fencer's silence. Fencer is really passing the buck here. A shame since this is his sight and he has many loyal customers. If he booted Gothic he'd be an instant hero. If he allows Gothic to boot paying members with legitimate complaints, then he has taken a step backwards. If he continues to remain silent and not address an issue which concerns us all (except in vague terms with tons of sliding room that appears less than fully honest to his customers) then it hurts him in the long run.

Of course, since Fencer won't deny it, maybe Gothic has a point. He may be willing to sacrifice current dissatisfied customers in order to do what he considers "the best for Brainking", ban the issue from further discussion, wipe the memory banks so to speak, and repackage BK for the customer of the future.

What we are asking, perhaps, is that Fencer be a human being as well as a businessman. Although even a pure businessman ought to be wiser than this. My honest belief is that business with Trice can only end in failure for Fencer, based on Trice's record outside of BK and personal dealings with him here.

I hope Fencer is at least still on the fence enough to come to his senses. And if and when he does, he ought to be hailed as the hero he is. Few of us have been in his shoes and have little idea how tempting Gothic's offer might be. Few of us know his personal circumstances.

It is NEVER easy to stand for what is right and do right, when one perceives the personal cost in doing so may be especially great. My opinion: Fencer is a good man in a bind. But his character is being forged as we speak. If he backs out of the Gothic deal, he'll be my hero for sure.

21. Marraskuu 2003, 20:07:45
MidnightMcMedic 
Harley does the best she can with what she is given and here she is not given a lot other than a hard time.

BK rocks, BK rules

Not everyone can/will say that or agree, but that is life and the way it works right?

21. Marraskuu 2003, 19:51:36
harley 
Dmitri, as you must be aware, that post was very derisive. I will not explain why I remove every post. That would take too much time and board space.
In a normal week I may remove five or six posts. The last two days I must easily have removed double that number.

Ground rules.

I will remove any post that is insulting towards other members.

I will remove any post that is likely to start an argument or flame war.

I will remove any post that is not relevant to BrainKing.

For the record, if a person says "I won a game but my ratings did not go up, could someone explain this?" I would be more than happy to help.
But when they come on and say "BrainKing is crap, ratings here are a joke, I won a game against a loser but my ratings didn't change" then its likely to be deleted. Its derogatory towards BK and their opponent.

21. Marraskuu 2003, 18:57:42
Dmitri King 
Otsikko: this discussion board
I think a post or posts about ratings not going up after a game are relevant to this discussion board. NOnetheless, harley has deleted these posts. I find this puzzling. harley seems to have gone power mad, deleting almost everything. What's the deal? What is eveyrone so afraid of?

perhaps these questions can be deemed relevant by the almighty moderator:

1) Is gothic taking over the site, and

2) is it true that he is offering a 200% refund to dissatisfied users?

21. Marraskuu 2003, 14:37:00
sLaMdAnCe13 
Otsikko: Re:
lol.

21. Marraskuu 2003, 10:58:37
Fencer 
Hey guys,
use private messages for your argument. Harley will delete it anyway.

21. Marraskuu 2003, 09:03:23
ughaibu 
Otsikko: Harley
Mine's just a trivial joke, I'm quite happy if it's deleted.

21. Marraskuu 2003, 08:57:32
harley 
Perhaps everyone would prefer I leave these insults here? Or should I leave posts that technically are not 'wrong' but make no sense away fom the insulting posts that I delete? If there is a chunk of insults, they all go. Andersp, if you want to ask a question, do it away from a barrage of insults from other people, and don't make it inflammatory and it will stay. I don't delete for no reason, and nobody needs to have posts approved by me before posting here.

21. Marraskuu 2003, 00:30:29
Dmitri King 
Otsikko: hmmmm
"Dmitri..an advice. If you want a post to stay, PM it to Harley in advance for her approval :)"

I can only hope that was meant in jest, otherwise that is a sorry state of affairs. I don't see what censorship accomplishes, and as a paying member, I consider the banishment of another member to be important, especially since his banishment has affected the outcome of a big tournament.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 22:40:22
harley 
Dmitri, I'm deleting anything that is the start of yet another huge discussion about things that have been discussed extensively elsewhere. This board will be kept clear for more important things. (Among other things) a persons credibility or personality is not something that should be discussed here.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 22:29:36
Dmitri King 
Otsikko: harley
it seems that numerous posts are disappearing each day. What is going on?

20. Marraskuu 2003, 22:17:06
bwildman 
yup...used to be a peacefull place.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 22:06:12
berengeria2 
Otsikko: Re: "Conquer the Site"
hello. perhaps it should be noted that we have been drawn into an unofficial game here, which could be called "Conquer the Site." it is often played wherever there is a free-access chatsite.
it has these stages:
1) the player, either with accomplices or using multple IDs, starts making gratuitous, obnoxious posts.
2) innocent bystanders are provoked to reply.
3) the site is disrupted and repression is undertaken.
4) (where we are now)- arguments ensue concerning the methods of repression or whether they are appropriate at all.
5) more disruption ensues and everyone leaves the chatsite in disgust and sets up a new one.
6) return to 1)
anyway, i thought i'd mention this. thank you for your time.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 16:30:38
Goonerg 
Close them down then. This is a games site, not a flame site.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 16:18:45
Goonerg 
Good.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 16:01:02
Goonerg 
Otsikko: Harley
Harley, You do a wonderful job.


:) Keep up the good work, there are alot of us out here who appreicate the work you do, and the time you give up to do it.

Thank you.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 08:33:20
harley 
Backoff, since GI states on that message that it is not for public posting, I am going to delete it, and all conversation about it.

20. Marraskuu 2003, 03:37:43
sLaMdAnCe13 
yawn..

19. Marraskuu 2003, 21:14:44
Fencer 
Can be done as well.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:59:00
Backoff 
in UBB or PhP type setting (i.e. <link>www.whatever.com>=HERE</link>) or when someone types http://www.whatever.com the system see that as a link and makes it clickable?

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:56:21
Fencer 
BK 2.0 will handle these situations smarter - all internal links will be automatically converted to relative URLs.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:53:53
MadMonkey 
LOL - thanks BBW, you were not here and i had to message Fencer for the answer - thanks anyway

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:52:58
MadMonkey 
Otsikko: World of Sport
A new discussion board is here for anyone interested (or would like to be) in sport.
World of Sport

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:47:21
coan.net 
to get a link to work for everyone, just use the last part of the address - like:

<A.HREF="/game/Board?bc=576"> link <.a>

And depending if the person has www, new, or blank - it will work for everyone, like this:

World Of Sports

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:45:47
Fencer 
Thanks harley. It seems that you know some BK features better than me :-)

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:42:08
Stevie 
you welcome, they both point to same thingy I thinky, but different ways in or something like that. Fencer could explain better LMAO

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:36:43
MadMonkey 
Otsikko: Re: World of Sport
oh right - got ya, i thought they had both been linked together now, cheers

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:34:37
Stevie 
Otsikko: Re: World of Sport
Those who use the "new" brainking link will get login page :o(

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:34:22
harley 
Noholdsbarred, click on 'edit' next to your fellowship name. There you will find a way to change the length of time news stays on your main page. If your old one hasn't run out of time, you will need to change that.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:32:35
MadMonkey 
Otsikko: Re: World of Sport
it goes to login ? i just tried it, seems ok ??

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:28:53
Fencer 
Otsikko: Re: fellowship news
noholdsbarred: I will check it.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:27:28
Stevie 
Otsikko: Re: World of Sport
MM, alter the link, it goes to login page :o) start with /game/

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:27:24
Fencer 
What speculations? Until something like that is announced at Server News, there are no changes in BrainKing staff.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:27:02
noholdsbarred 
Otsikko: fellowship news
Fencer
I have posted a new news page (chess club) but it has not replaced the last one on the club front page?
Is there some other action I have to take?

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:19:34
Linda J 
Fencer I know you don't like to talk about this subject but your refusal to speak is only spawning more speculation and turning this place into a war zone.Please set the record straight and get this place back on track.Has Gothic taken over here?

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:08:36
berengeria2 
Otsikko: Good luck
i've played on a number of sites (and they all crash) and no one has found a way to prevent obnoxious posts.
i sort of skip though them and treat it as backround noise.
censorship proposals seem to just create a whole new conflict - between advocates and opponents of censorship - and this might be a motive.
that is, as is well-recorded, the best way to get a book read is to have it banned by a library.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 20:07:31
MadMonkey 
Otsikko: World of Sport
A new discussion board is here for anyone interested (or would like to be) in sport.
World of Sport

19. Marraskuu 2003, 17:54:13
The Listener 
Otsikko: I Second That Notion!
I think having more than one Moderator per board is a superb idea! Let me just add that the 'Main Moderator' should get to choose the other Moderator(s). Perhaps the number of Moderators could be weighed according to the traffic and/or subject on each board to ensure the best service?

              ~ MS

19. Marraskuu 2003, 15:17:35
harley 
Otsikko: Interview with....CaoZ
No more questions for CaoZ please, his interview has been sent to him and his replies will be posted here soon.

You can still read Fencers interview HERE if you missed it the first time!

The NEXT interviewee is Liquid. Now is your chance to find out everything you wanted to know about him! Send me your questions, and don't forget to say if it is ok to add your name or not :o)

19. Marraskuu 2003, 15:05:30
WhisperzQ 
Eriisa ... the offending posts have now been deleted so NHB's comments are now a little out of context :)

19. Marraskuu 2003, 15:05:17
harley 
No worries, noholdsbarred, thats what I'm here for. And I've taken a much tougher stance lately. NO off-topic posts will be left here from now on. No matter how benign they may be. Angst doesn't stand a chance :o)

19. Marraskuu 2003, 14:59:48
noholdsbarred 
Eriisa
I take it you refer to the bile board or graffiti wall. I was not aware of fellowships dedicated to that function.
The parties involved in the clash of personalities (delightfully phrased), that sparked my post, were as i recall both rooks.
Fencer clearly has it in hand.
The real point I was trying to make was to keep the angst of this board.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 14:39:20
Eriisa 
Otsikko: Re: Ladies?
noholdsbarred, Are you aware that several fellowships have been created for that purpose, until Fencer could set up a general one? The only disadvantage is that pawns are not allowed in fellowships.

And I agree with multiple moderators. It would make things easier.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 09:36:33
noholdsbarred 
Otsikko: Board Moderation
Fencer... an idea for the pot
given the world wide nature of the membership would it be a good idea to have more than one moderator per board. By careful geographical selection monitoring could then be 24hr.
Further as "big boss" (not my favourite term) of a fellowship and having been travelling a lot recently, I have not done all that was needed to restore the fellowship PC (post crash) it would assist greatly if I could have a standin?..
Though the guys in the club have done a lot having someone else also able to post the news etc ... thoughts?

19. Marraskuu 2003, 09:18:47
Bernice 
Otsikko: Re: Fencer
Oh dear....it isnt my intention to say tha Fencer allows flaming...just how can these people get away with it?? oh god does this make sense i think not :L(LOLOLOLOL

19. Marraskuu 2003, 08:56:41
Fencer 
Linda: Because it has no sense on private boards. Of course, I have to implement the "remove this user from the fellowship" feature as well.

19. Marraskuu 2003, 08:45:34
Linda J 
Otsikko: ban/hide
Fencer why were these features removed from fellowships?

19. Marraskuu 2003, 08:41:32
Bernice 
Otsikko: Fencer
Could you please tell me why it is that people are allowed to join BK (non-paying) and then proceed to FLAME all and sundry....
Im speaking of Taurec, SecondarySchool, and Filth and Foam.
This is from someone that is interested in BrainKing.com itself, its structure, features and future.
I know it isnt the exact same post but I can moderate :)oops.....moderate my speech i meant LOL,,,Harley

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