Today (3/14) is the last day to sign up for the March Madness Espionage Tournament. The tournament will start 3/15/05. Good Luck to all of the participants!

i currently have two games in teh waiting rooms now done like this. hopefully it worked.

Nothingness:
Click "New game"
Click "Other"
Click "Espionage"
Change the drop down box set with "100," to "1900"
Uncheck the "Include unrated players" box
Click "Continue."
Click "Send"

Im trying to set up espionage games. where i only want to face people of certain ratings. but it does not work for me. what am I doing wrong. for example i want to play a game of espionage against poeple with ratings of 1900 or higher. HOW EXACTLY DO I DO THIS!!!!? Ive tried it before and Unrated players still are able to challenge me. Could anyone give me a step by step tutorial of how this is done. I need to know each button click exactly how it is done. Dont just say go to this and click this... i need a thorough explaination.

reviewing the game is the only way to clarify the situation.

Backgammonfan28: This never happened to me...are you sure you attacked the 5 with your sapper and not a spy?

Backgammonfan28: yes the Sapper takes out mines and 5 generals. When the Sapper is the one who attacks the 5 general. If the 5 general attacks the Sapper then the 5 general wins. If you did attack a 5 general with a Sapper and lost the Sapper this is incorrect and you might wish to bring it to Fencers attention to be corrected.

I don't believe so. Sappers are also the only piece able to destroy mines correct?

Backgammonfan28: In a five-vs-sapper attack, the attacker wins. Are you getting sappers mixed up with spies? Just a guess.

I am confused about one area of this game. It says in the rules that a sapper if attacking a general the sapper wins, and if the general attacks the general wins, well I attacked a 5 with a sapper and my sapper was removed from the board. Isn't this an error? What does beat a 5 other than another 5?

Don't forget to sign up if you want to participate... So far we don't have the turnout I had expected. If there is a problem with the format of the tournament please feel free to express your concerns and I will do my best to accomodate everyone... Is the time limit too short? too long? etc. I am trying to get some friendly competition going aside from regular games. I think people try harder and the games are better when there is something on the line. We have 2 weeks to get this thing going let me know your thoughts...

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=7575&trnst=0

Hercules - yes, 2700 is the maximum BKR.

BuilderQ is correct. That is the formula used here for computing BKRs. I translated it into Czech for Fencer so I know.

i think the max of bkr is 2700 ? (as i saw 4? players with a bkr for a five in line or line four)

I think BrainKing uses a less transparent rating system than that: http://math.bu.edu/people/mg/ratings/approx/approx.html

its not exactly zero ... but less than a whole point .. so you cant see it as the bkr you see is shown in whole points

in the FAQ section you can find an explanation of bkr

Here you can find more about the formula used

BUT ZERO !!! goodness.

Nothingness: thats because your rated so far above those players, tehrefore your obvisouly quite a good player, and so you don't take as many points or in your case none.

i meant for example.... i was rated 2100 in say espionage. i played 3 guys who were rated about 1500, 1200 and Unrated. after each of those wins i got ZEro ratings points. why is this?

Nothingness: play 1 more and you will have a rating

i jstu played 3 games and got nothing for my trouble! grrr.i shouldve gotten something. 2 of them were rated palyers/

Who's you Daddy???

Sorry! Couldn't resist...

money money money MONEY money!!!!

Pedro Martínez: ????

ROOK! ROOK! ROOK! ROOK! ROOK!

im in an elspionage tourney which is still in the process of be completed and looks like it is in no way going to be completed by march. bu ti will gladly enter the others.

BDilly: March Madness Espionage Tournament

Who is the best of the best??

I have created an Espionage tournament set to begin March 15 2005. It will consist of each Espionage variant and it will have a 3 day per move time limit. The goal is to get as many people to sign up as possible. If we can get enough people to play I am hoping we can guage who the better players are and crown a champ in each variant. If anyone wants to give any feedback please send me a message. May the best player win!!!

my bad thats what i meant....getting stratego mixed up with espionage/sabotage

... or another 5

Nothingness: Only a *sapper* (minesweeper) can capture a 5. ;-)

1,2,3,4 and 5 are all generals. jsut its one star general through 5 star generals.. and only a spy can capture a 5 star general.

5 are the highest

I get the 4's and 5's confused. Which are generals? 5's right?

heres a tip for the beginner espionage player. you will notice that some players will trade their 5s in exchange for their opponents 4s. This is not a mistake. Many feel that they are of equal value when in fact they are not, but it mainly depends on the situation adn your playing style. you can play a 3 vs a 5 fairly well if your an advanced player. Also be cautious about giving away your spys. they are your most prized pieces!!! No eyes no fight!

before i turned back from the dark side to teh good side i decided to keep my original name. so have other such as hannelore, nuno miguel and others.

Don't worry I have some Jedi mind tricks I learned from you... I am interested to see who this is though!

Remember other IYT converts ahve changed there names such as lightningbolt who is jonaron. So be mindful my young apprentice! LOL couldnt resist.

Dragon: Exactly what I was hoping for... Consider it done!

maybe this conversation needs to go to PMs?

Bdilly. Yes you are missing something. Play me and find out.

So you have "checked me out" as it were. Having judged the book by the cover, how many pages did you find?

Dragon: you said: Like what knowledge do you have of my experience, ability, etc?

I see one completed game in your profile... Am I missing something? Nothingness has been playing this game for like 5 years (on IYT). I would think his knowledge/experience far exceeds your one game! Then again I could be wrong?

With all respect, where do you get your findings that I am "not very well versed in espionage /sabotage/ stratego strategy"?

Like what knowledge do you have of my experience, ability, etc?

Your also missing my point concerning chess, and that is being able to play the same variant, but on a different, and probabaly better site.

hmm i see your not very well versed in espionage /sabotage/ stratego strategy. being able to move back to the same spot prevents your opponent from tracing (not tracking) you while retreating from blind pieces that are discovered at a later time. but attacking is dangerous if you are able to move back to the same spot (very difficult to explain in this post). so you have to think a bit harder. As for comparing chess to other sites HUH?! Chess has "CHESS" rules. Espionage is its own game which followed a specific set of rules for that particular game and could be changed at any time. Chess rules are exactly that... chess rules you cant change them (well you could but then it becomes a different game). Espionage was made here and can be changed by the creator of the game. But now Espionage is Sabotage. a variance would be nice, with both sets of rules.. As for ratings i love the ratings system b/c it is like USCF. Please dont change the ratings system.

Dragon: Why move away from a "1"? Well if I'm getting ready to attack with a 5, but I know his "1" is protected by another 5 or a sapper - I will not attack and possible even move away, which may (in most cases) make my opponent think it is a very weak piece and may chase, allowing me to then turn around and attack. (Strategy I think it is called)

Will anything happen because I'm letting off a little steam in here? Of course not, but felt like venting somewhere.... that is all. :-)

Ok. Let's get a few things in perspective.

For starters Big Bad Wolf, moving sideways from a "1" has nothing to do with this rule; like why move in the first place?!

Secondly, my rating's took a serious bashing with the "crash" 2 years ago. Subsequently, I had to restart games I had already won. Annoying? yes. Getting anywhere by being peeved off? No. Lesson: Accommodate the new rule and don't moan.

Also, Nothingness, is chess on this site not an exact clone of IYT's, nevermind other site's?

The point I am putting across here is not having to change the game, but being able to offer the same dimensions, just on a superior site.

Can nobody see this?!

thats the worst. i hate restarting especially when you are up on a superior opponent. im lucky i play defensively and wasnt caught off guard. i didnt over persue.

I'll get over it and accept it - just frustrating and letting out a little steam!

And if you make an agreement with your opponent about restarting the game, just let me know.

Easy :-)