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Emne: Re: I think it's despicable what they've done. But I can't say I'm "upset" over it. I certainly can understand however why some people are.
Artful Dodger: Good.
Charlotte Church and her family agreed to a £600,000 settlement today. The NI group started hacking her phone when she turned 16. 33 stories published were through her and her families phones being hacked. They even went after her mother.
"At her lowest moment, the NoW issued her with an ultimatum and coerced her into giving them an in-depth interview about her self-harming and attempted suicide. She felt she had no choice but to give the interview and was deeply traumatised by the publication of the story in the News of the World. "The NoW targeted Charlotte and her voicemail messages repeatedly, and in doing so unlawfully obtained her private medical information and details of her personal relationships with her family and friends. Even her first teenage boyfriend. They then ran stories about Charlotte using this information.
Their solicitors words.
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers gave evidence at the Leveson Inquiry today...
""Emails indicate that payments to sources were openly referred to at the Sun," DAC Akers said.
In her written statement, DAC Akers said there was recognition that this behaviour was illegal, with reference made to staff "risking losing their pensions or job", to the need for "care" and to the need for "cash payments"".
================= "Some OWS protesters raped"
One rapist turned out to be a convicted sex offender. As to others.. you'll always get some who will take advantage of such groupings. It doesn't mean they became OWS protesters and that made them start raping does it.
Artful Dodger: Are you then upset by the phone hacking Dan?
As to Murdoch.. he's been interfering with British politics for years and many people in the UK have seen that. The use of his papers and media to support his 'friends' is not new news. Maybe to you though.
As to the kids being branded as racist... the Daily mail as you posted stated "effectively classed, rather than actually classed. Can you prove (as the onus is on you) they were, or are you just going to go by the Daily Mails word?
"The rapes were covered up. And now there are many in the OWS movement (supporters and participants) that are denying that rapes occurred even though there are police records to show differently."
Right.. from what I've read this is the case...
""These protests have a history of welcoming everyone and just assuming they're on your side," said David Meyer, a professor of sociology at the University of California at Irvine, who studies protest movements.
The recent reports of assaults have created a problem the "Occupy" movement is being challenged to address head-on.
"We always encourage victims to go through the proper channels and contact police," said Brendan Burke, 41, who helps run the security team in Zuccotti Park.
But that's not always the case. Burke admitted there have been times when members of the community have taken it upon themselves to chase off men who exposed themselves in the park.
"If there is a consensus that someone is bothering another person, the community will take care of it," he said. "Still, we always notify victims to contact police.""
Now.. It sounds like you are trying to say the protesters are rapists. I could then say as it has happened that Christians and Conservatives are rapists, as a number have been found to be rapists.
Artful Dodger: So it's ok for this guy and his organisation to hack into the phone of a dead girl as well as hundreds of others and that is ok. To bribe police. to blackmail MP's and to do other matters that are against UK law.
But you then like Bill (your mentor) say I'm applauding bullying by putting words into my mouth. Golly.. I thought you hated that!!
I would sincerely hope there would be NO swear words used on here....I have been picked up on every one I have used, but then thats me....I only have to look sideways and get chatted.
Ann Coulter. Hannity & Colmes, June 20, 2001 "God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."
Sept. 12, 2001 "We should invade their [Muslim] countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Tell me she's really a Satanist.. it makes more sense!!
“When your family or friends cannot explain why they voted democrat, give them this list and they can pick a reason from this “TOP 12″.
12. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn’t.
11. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
10. I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
9. I voted Democrat because I’m way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.
8. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can’t tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don’t start driving a Prius.
7. I voted Democrat because I’m not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
6. I voted Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits, and we should take away the social security from those who paid into it.
5. I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.
4. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.
3. I voted Democrat because I think that it’s better to pay billions to people who hate us for their oil, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle, gopher or fish.
2. I voted Democrat because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, I was promised “HOPE AND CHANGE”.
And, finally, the No. 1 reason to vote Democrat:
1. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my (two words: R..C...), it’s unlikely that I’ll ever have another point of view.”
fukuhara: I recently saw a docudrama on the Nanjing Massacre. Very brutal stuff. Sad that some deny it and even sadder still that some young people have never heard of it.
Vikings: No problem. I certainly wasn't trying to bait anyone....but was trying to drive the point home. And my barbs were aimed at the idiots that make such policies. And yes, the US has it's set of knuckle heads at the top making nutty decisions as well. Oddly enough, they all have the first name of Peter. Last name Principle. Go figure ;)
The real problem in Japan is the book that says Nanjing Massacre didn't happen are still widely accepted and even sell well. They outsell the books written by serious historians who state the issue based on historical facts. Today's Japanese young people are ignorant of Japanese war crimes. School textbooks downplay the facts and high school students never study Japanese history after 19th century unless it is required for college entrance exams. It is just like how Japanese are told nuclear power plant is perfectly safe. Japanese government didn't admit the war crime until 1995 when then Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama did accept the Japanese atrocities during second world war.
OK, so political correctness has run amuck in both the UK and the US. no need to make further post on the subject. any further post on the subject may be taken as baiting and be removed, please move on to another topic,
Security at a U.S. school has been stepped up after a racist video rant by two of its white female students went viral.
Santaluces High School, in Lantana, Florida, is on high alert for possible retaliation attacks after the two girls poked fun at the way black pupils 'talk' and wear their weave hair extensions.
It comes hot on the heels of similar footage posted by two teenagers from nearby Gainesville last week who received death threats after also making disparaging comments against black students.
In this latest disturbing video, the girls start by saying white students 'turn black' as soon as they enter the school, claiming you 'catch the disease'.
At one point they add: 'Guys, if you're watching this video now, and you have a weave, and you're black, please be offended - because we're making fun of you. It ends with one of the girls saying: 'Don't post this on Facebook because all our friends are black.' They chuckle, flash peace signs and say 'peace and love'.
A district education spokesman said the school, which is 27 per cent white, 35 per cent black and 33 per cent Hispanic, was aware of the video.
A statement read: "Appropriate action will be taken according to district policy. Racist comments are unacceptable and have no place in our school district." And The Palm Beach Post newspaper said the school was stepping up its security after the girls' video went viral.
School Police Chief Jim Kelly added that, because social media is so new, it did not have a policy in place to deal with such incident. But, he said, he would not be looking into it to develop one.
The video is the second in a week to outrage America.
Last week two teenage girls were forced to drop out of their high school in Gainesville, when they began getting death threats after their 15-minute racist rant about 'black people'. The girls cheerily complained about the African-American students in their classes and dragged out a litany traditional racist stereotypes.
Will the girls parents be paying for the extra security costs?
British School Authority: "Thank you for coming into school today to discuss this very important matter. This is Mr. Itza Law the school attorney and this is Mrs. Hope Leslie Clueless, the liaison from the government office RATS, (Racism And Terrorism in Schools). I'd like to show you something."
Mom: "Ok, it's a cute picture of kids playing outside. And???"
British School Authority: "You're daughter drew this."
Mom: "ok It's cute"
British School Authority: "Notice the two children in the picture that have black skin? You're daughter singled them out and used a black color crayon to represent their skin color!
Mom: "I see she labeled them with their names. Those are her two black friends that live down the street.
British School Authority: "Their skin color is NOT black!! It's a dark brown! What your daughter did by coloring using a black color crayon is nothing less than racism!!!"
Mom: "She's 5. What was the assignment."
British School Authority: "To draw and color of picture of her and her friends playing their favorite outdoor activity."
Mom: "Well, looks like she did that."
British School Authority: "We need to deal with this crisis situation now while your daughter is impressionable. She needs to know that racism isn't tolerated in this society."
Mom: "What did she do exactly that was racist?"
British School Authority: " She used a black crayon to color a black person!!!"
Mom: "Yeah, cuz their black"
British School Authority: "And she made their hair frizzy!!!!"
Mom: "Hmmmm, maybe because they both have frizzy hair???"
British School Authority: "Those are racial stereotypes."
Mom: "No, those are accurate representations. Where is my daughter now?"
British School Authority: "She's in the other room. Handcuffed. And she's under arrest. She'll be spending the night in jail. We have a zero tolerance policy on acts of racism. The police are on their way."
Mom: "You're a complete moron."
British School Authority: "That is besides the point. There is a law against racism. We have to learn that we are all equals! And it's your job as a mom to get that message across. Where do people in this society get off thinking they are better than others? Well, I have to run, I'm late for my daily meeting at the Caledonian Club."
Mom: "Isn't that a men only club?"
................. No longer because women are allowed in now. Nothing is sacred. British equality act...your knuckle draggers at work! Next men will be allowed in the girls bathroom. Equality you know. I hear there is legislation that will require the UK men to power their noses when out in public! That's so the women don't feel inferior!
The Col: Well he just said another dumb thing today so it will be interesting. Frankly, I don't see Santorum going head to head with Obama. Mitt yes, Santorum, no.
Artful Dodger: Santorum had Michigan wrapped up, until he opened his mouth the last week.If he had stayed on the economy and not social issues he had it in the bag.It will be close,but he ticked off enough people to probably let Mitt win it.The debate should be interesting
Much like a boxing match, the bigger the hype, the less exciting they seem to be.One thing is certain though, Newt needs a very strong showing or he is toast.If only Newt would drop out,Santorum would gain more than enough to snuff Mitt
The UK is actually a great place to live and we're not all "stupid and incompetent knuckle draggers". We have our fair share but no more or less than other countries.
In December 2006, it was revealed that a The Guardian journalist, Ian Cobain, had worked undercover in the BNP for seven months, becoming the party's central London organiser.[68][69] Among the accusations made by the paper was that the BNP used "techniques of secrecy and deception ... in its attempt to conceal its activities and intentions from the public". It asserted that the BNP operated with a "network of false identities" and organised rendezvous points to allow members to be directed to "clandestine meetings". Party members were directed to avoid "any racist or anti-semitic language in public". Cobain also claimed that the membership in central London had expanded beyond the party's traditional range, now including "dozens of company directors, computing entrepreneurs, bankers and estate agents, and a handful of teachers".[68]
Following the report, the campaign group Unite Against Fascism called for ballerina Simone Clarke to be dismissed from the English National Ballet, because her views on immigration were "incompatible with a leading arts institution such as the English National Ballet" and because she had "used her position to support a party which fosters division".[70] Clarke said: "the BNP is the only party to take a stand against immigration".[70]
The BNP was investigated by the Electoral Commission in 2007, after The Guardian revealed that it had set up a front organisation to raise money from sympathisers in the United States.
"....The EDL leadership has estimated that the EDL has 100,000 members.[31] A research group has given a lower figure of 25,000 to 35,000 members.[32]...."
Artful Dodger: It is a point when the source presents data that will include children taught that being white is 'special'. It is a point when you still have homophobic parents and groups saying be gay is against their version of God.
Bwild: HAHAHAHA....you are so spot on...the UK having no where to go but up... and (V) "there is a big piece of land "...... I wonder what you would call the centre of Autralia hahahaha
and AD.......OMG, the Brits are all nuts. Political correctness gone mad. Stupid and incompetent knuckle draggers......ROFLMBO
Artful Dodger: Nick Griffin on Question Time "egg on yer face"???
"In total, 34,000 nursery, primary and secondary pupils — including more than 20,000 pupils aged 11 or younger — were effectively classed as bigots for so-called ‘hate speech’"
Could you provide info on how many of the children were from families who support the likes of the BNP or EDL?
Home Office minister John Denham has been criticised by the police for using the phrase "nitty gritty" because of race relations rules. Mr Denham used the phrase during a debate at the Police Federation conference in Bournemouth.
He was told that police officers could face disciplinary charges for saying "nitty gritty" because it dates from the slavery era.
Some rank-and-file officers say the rules about language have become "a minefield" and have made them inhibited in doing their job.
Has political correctness gone mad? How much care should be taken by police over language?
Artful Dodger: Noooo. no comparison. It just seems silly to get all worked up over a school kid standing in front of his class, while there are many worse things happening.
Emne: Re: It is just human nature. We always want things bigger.
Bwild: We have land, just in some cases it's locked up in planning arguments/debates.
eg.. there is a big piece of built on unused land a couple of miles from us. It is going to rebuilt on houses wise, but not for some years. One of the problems is many of the structures were built using asbestos in various ways.
It is harder with such pieces of land to build on than with virgin plots as you know.
10 months? I thought it was summer! Who's saying December?
Emne: Re: It is just human nature. We always want things bigger.
(V): I would think England has the same issues as many "small"(land mass) countries...over population and no where to go but up.
in the U.S. its the rising costs of utilities,recession, and "green" awareness. houses are selling for 50 cents on the dollar in some areas..which puts a strangle hold on the construction industry. doesnt really matter...in 10 months we're goners anyways! lol
A lawmaker has refused to sign a resolution celebrating the Girl Scouts' 100th anniversary as the group has become a 'radicalised organisation'.
Republican Representative Bob Morris from Fort Wayne, Indiana claims they promote a 'homosexual lifestyle', transgenders and the values of Planned Parenthood. Morris wrote to his fellow House Republicans to explain why he would not be supporting the resolution, which thanked the Girl Scouts for its 'strong positive influence on the American woman'.
But after researching the Girl Scouts on the internet, Morris said he found accusations that the group worked with Planned Parenthood. Another of his disturbing' finds was that they allowed transgender girls to join.
...."Dear Fellow Representatives:
This past week I was asked to sign a House Resolution recognizing the 100th Anniversary of Girl Scouts of America. After talking to some well-informed constituents, I did a small amount of web-based research, and what I found is disturbing
The Girl Scouts of America and their worldwide partner, World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS), have entered into a close strategic affiliation with Planned Parenthood.
Abundant evidence proves that the agenda of Planned Parenthood includes sexualizing young girls through the Girl Scouts, which is quickly becoming a tactical arm of Planned Parenthood. Denver Auxiliary Bishop James D. Conley of Denver last year warned parents that 'membership in the Girl Scouts could carry the danger of making their daughters more receptive to the pro-abortion agenda'.
Many parents are abandoning the Girl Scouts because they promote homosexual lifestyles. Of the fifty role models listed, only three have a briefly-mentioned religious background – all the rest are feminists, lesbians, or Communists.
Boys who decide to claim a 'transgender' life-style are permitted to become a member of a Girl Scout troop, performing crafts with the girls and participate in overnight and camping activities – just like any real girl.
The fact that the Honorary President of Girl Scouts of America is Michelle Obama should give each of us reason to pause before our individual or collective endorsement of the organization.
I challenge each of you to examine these matters and to decide carefully whether or not to sign the resolution.
Emne: Re: It is just human nature. We always want things bigger.
Übergeek 바둑이: The main reason our average size 'houses' have dropped is the amount of flats being built for first time owners or commuters. There has been some 'splitting' of old large plots into multi house development, but that is now being frowned upon. Most older developments/'estates' have plenty of space, some have even won awards and had other European developers copying the layout and form.
Artful Dodger: ..."He was made to stand in front of the class and make an apology while his mother, Jane Hennessey, was called in by the head of Purford Green Junior School in Harlow, Essex...."
Not exactly water boarding.. although you think that is fine. Or Apple using slave factories in China to make enormous profits, but you think it's fine as long as the profits are enormous. It's not capitalism's fault the workers are committing suicide because of the 12+ hour shifts they are working... It's communism's fault!!
Now I'm not comparing the kids ordeal of having to stand in front of the class to sweat shop slavery.. In no way am I!!
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