Czuch Czuckers: not nazi, a simple request with your original post in pm.

the rest about this nazi moderation can be discussed with me via pm, on chat or a fs board

its been quite some discussion about the action points.

its at a stall now, some people complain they cant compete because they dont know how to get the secret action points. well then they should not deserve to be in the top of this months contest either as this months contest is about the secret action. if you cant find it (like i cant ;)) then you cant be on the top of the list (at least not without a LOT of effort :))

players can have their own reasons to play or not to play with someone else .. some people might base it on action points, some people on number of running games, some on bkr, some on the person behind the keyboard, some will play with anyone, some based on the time they have in real life and, some on other reasons .. its their personal right to chose whoever they will play with (i will play with anyone, but not right now as i wont have much time as i will be on holiday, but after that i will again)

so:

the action points contest of this moth is about the secret action : find it or fail
the action points of this month requires ads to be on, so turn them on or dont participate this month

its a players own choice who (s)he will play with


please take the next comments on this months action points contest to the chat board unless you have something really new about the subject to add

any following posts about this subject will be deleted (sorry)

Baked Alaskan: sorry, i wasnt responding directly to you, it was just your message at which i clicked on reply after reading the whole thread. sorry, i should have removed your name.

the contest is a new extra feature which is free and which gives chance to win a prize. thats great! but (as with all contests in life) you have to do something to join the contest. in this case it means you have to turn on your ads to be able to join (and use internet explorer as browser).

it doesnt hurt any of anyones current membership who doesnt want the ads. thats still possible but you cant join the (otherwise free) contest

Baked Alaskan: when you came to this site and decided to become a member, why did you do that ?
because of the games i guess ?

what has changed about that since then ? nothing i hope ? the games are still there, the site is still there.

there is just something extra which doesnt cost you anything. you can keep using the site exactly as you were used to.
to use the extra feature (action points) an different setting is needed.

now its up to every player to decide if they would rather allow the ads to be able to use this extra feature, or not use the ads and this extra feature but continue with their membership as they did before

the action point contest of last month was mainly about moves being made, the action point contest of this month is mainly about finding and using the secret action

if you dont want the ads, then you wont be able to use the extra (for which you dont pay either), if you dont mind the ads or think the contest if more important (;)) then you can try to find the secret action, or maybe even outdo the secret action by moves alone.

summary:
it doesnt disadvantage anyone who doesnt want to take part in the contest.
it doesnt cost anything, its just a free gesture of fencer (for which in return you are helping him testing the site ;))

so please be nice for another and happy for whatever extras you are getting for no extra charge :)

Chaosu: the idea of the secret action is to let the users explore the site more thouroughly and to test new features. by keeping the action secret it will force users to explore for real

the fact that the secret points wont work under firefox is a bit weird though, i admit, but its still part of it .. there is a link under the left menu (in my settings) that tells you to download firefox, maybe thats a hint :)

btw i havent collected any secret action points either .. i have tried a lot .. both in firefox (at home) as in ie (at work), but so far i havent found it :)

(but hey! i am blond ;))

Jason: if i click on it then it turns on the last 2 items of the 'show banner adds' settings


Show banner ads:
[ ] on the top of pages
[v] on the bottom of pages
[v] at the right column

after that i dont get the message anymore. do you click on the word 'here' or on the words 'action points' ? you have to click on the word 'here' in the message

baddessi:

thanks :) will try my best ;)

WatfordFC: i see you continued the conversation on the computer board

just posting the link here in case anyone is interested or has any tips to help you, so they can post it there

Marfitalu: does it contain more than 1 tone ? .. hmm then its too tough for me ;)

oops sorry, i got here via another link and didnt realize it was the bk board instead of the chat one .. please delete this offramp remark :)

playBunny: ah! i got it! its a bit more than that .. i have to find a player for each nationality on here and whistle its anthem :)

Pedro Martínez: hey! thats not fair! it gives the czech an advantage!

what if i whistle the dutch anthem while i am on my profile ? ;)

rabbitoid: which control and which shift ? i tried it with both the left control and left shift key but it didnt work ... maybe my whistling wasnt good enough either .. i just whistled something .. dont know the czech anthem :)

Fencer: of course .. i wont give any info to my concurrents :)

Fencer: btw i dont mind .. i like being on a quest :)

Fencer: argh! so i have to try it all again ? ;)

(btw i also clicked on all advertisements of course :))

rednaz23: *nod* i tried all links as well .. even created a tournament, joined a tournament, won a tournament, won a match, lost a match, had a match end in a draw.

i didnt do any modding actions though or create or delete a fellowship. neither did i upgrade my account or buy brains or anything from the shop :)
(so far i havent seen anyone who got points for the secret action (i check some people in the list who have more than 500 action points))

will the secret action be the same every day ? or will it be a different action on another day ?

gambler104: *nod* i dont have any brains either .. if i did i would enter those tournaments though :)

gambler104: i would like that .... but hey i am dutch :)
there are already such tournaments ... you have to enter some brains and will earn more when you win :)

Brian1971: i agree with you about the jumping .. i would not have felt offended by your post .. even if i would be online 24/7 .. it would not mean that i have no life .. but i wouldnt mind if someone else thought me to have no life .. it would just mean that i would have different priorities and made that choice myself

but lets not get off topic :)

in all kinds of sports there is the system that who practices most has the biggest chance to win .. thats why in match of professionals against amateurs the professional will win most of the time .. professionals means 'people who can spend all their time to the task and are getting paid for it so that wont have to spend time on making money otherwise'

the same applies to this system of action points i think .... i will never make a chance winning those prizes .. but i dont think that kind of prize is mine anyway

i would love prizes for any of the upper ratings/statistics/.. though ;) nice idea!

Tycho: wow!

playBunny: i couldnt get on when i tried this morning at 7am (cet) .. i could get online around 11 am i think

i dont think i tried after 9pm yesterday evening .. but i am not sure

tonyh: make sure your membership renews each year in september .. your vacation days will be filled back up again to 30 at the start of a new year .. but also when you renew your membership .. so you can have 60 vacation days per year

make good use of your weekend days .. you can change them to other days of the week (once in a while) .. this might save you some vacation days
(e.g. i wasnt able to move in a game last thursday .. but i knew i would be able to move on saturday .. so i changed my weekend days to thursday and friday .. that way it didnt cost me a vacation day)

playBunny: i am not sure if i like the idea of peopole babystitting games of other players .. we have vacation days for that .. and players should plan a bit .. or take into account some timeouts .. i am for sure .. although i am glad i got rid of the red and green dot games before i go away on holiday .. i am not joining new ones .. although i know i can handle them with vacation days .. but it wouldnt be nice to my opponents i think

i will certainly time out in a couple of games on dailygammon .. even a few rated ones .. but i wont let someone babysit them .. i dont like the idea of them boosting or dropping my rating :)
(i could care less about the friendly games, although some of those are some kind of tournament as well)

all that said i can see people doing it .. and i wont act against it .. although i dont like it

i definetly dont like the idea of several people using 1 account in which each player plays only 1 type of game ... that way the overal rating (average bkr, win loss ratio, ..) would be cheated for sure

Vikings: hmm true .. i am in a few of those fellowships as well .. people all talk weird .. but they are still nice people ;)

i did join a few tournaments that way as well indeed

i keep the messages on as long as i am online often enough .. which is most of the year :)

Pbarb2: why join a fellowship if you dont read the fellowship boards ?
especially the main language which shows its new messages as a red number on the right side column

people who dont read the fs boards wont read the group messages either .. they will simply delete them

posting new tournaments on the fs boards is (imo) the way to do it

of course your pms arent as often as some other fs pms .. some fs post their tournaments on their fs board, send a group message, post the tournament on the public tournament board, and post it in the public game board of the specific game .. thats a bit too much :)

i do read the red numbers .. i once in a while (when i have some more time) read the other fs boards .. and when i am really desparate i will look at the fs main pages and the tournament page

when i dont even have time to read the red numbers then i certainly dont have time to join tournaments which are group messaged to me

pms are to me important messages which are personal and have something to say which i want to know .. the group messages create chaos in that :)

i can only see 1 situation in which i would send out a group message and that would be if i would turn the fs over to someone else .. other than that i will use the fs boards

all that said i wont turn the group messages off because at the moment i can still handle the amount of spam by being online often enough .. but if i would be online a bit less often then i would turn them off for sure :)

(sorry)

BIG BAD WOLF: i love the option as well .. i still receive messages from all fellowships .. i havent turned them off .. but before my holiday i will so i wont be flooded when i come back

my message box is meant for private messages mainly .. although, because i am online often enough, i dont mind the fs messages that much .. as long it wont be too much ..

sometimes they are useful .. for example when i am looking for a new tournament :)
but at the moment i am trying to have only a few games left when i go on holiday so i am not looking for new tournaments to join :)

its a great option .. its great because its an option (which can be on or off ;))

Marfitalu: maybe not for him, but it might be for other players :)

especially when you are in a tournament with 2 games between all players .. for example in a reversi tournament where most games end after the same amount of moves .. so both games would end at the same time and same day

its called 'action points' so actions should be rewarded (imo)

cheating is of course not allowed, but playing fast games is. even if its with the same opponent .. its still action

using multinicks is always cheating, working together with someone else isnt (not even in ponds imo, but thats another matter :))

pawns can only have 20 games at once so it takes quite some action to reach the level as the top action players are now

there is also a ranking with most moves per day .. which is almost the same list (almost!) .. but there is no prize attached to it

i think it would be bending the rules to allow only points with different opponents .. that has little to do with the action

maybe the action points list could be separated from the list which is used to determine the prize winner though ?

as long as the action points make people move faster .. it seems to be working a bit .. (it wont make me move faster though .. i always need some time with tougher moves, but easy games or games with less option are moved fast by me)

anyway .. action points are given per move (and per win) .. thats what action is

especially if it encourages people to make friends to work together to move very fast
(there are also tournaments inside fellowships with only a few people (friends) .. those tournaments still count in the total tournament list)

Hrqls: sorry, wrong board :(
continue this thread at : http://brainking.com/nl/Board?bc=36&ngi=560652

You witness against a top criminal. You are put in a witness protection program. You use a new name, move to a tiny village where noone knows you. You hear the doorbell ring. You appear to be the 1000th inhibitant of the village and suddenly find yourself in all the newspapers and on television.

thats not what you want! thats not how you want to end!

lets find out if you can escape

Jason: i think its 40 days for black rooks as i saw some black rooks with 40 days .. but i am not sure

i used paypal as well .. but i guess anything else via which i can easily use my credit card will be ok as well :)

Hrqls: hmm cant find an online movie of a puffin flying away .. its a fun thing to see :)

Fencer: hey! puffins cant help it to be slow .. did you ever see one taking of ? (fly away) ;)

Mr. Shumway: i can view the graph bbw just posted

last week or the week before that i once had a graph not showing though . i didnt investigate further at that time .. and i now have no problems . not sure what caused it .. i am not even sure on which computer or with browser i was viewing :)

ΜīήďSрŷ: beauty comes from the inside ;)


(i somewhere read that in the last amount of years more than half of the miss universe competition was won by someone from india .. if that means anything :))

Pedro Martínez: lol ... ok lets bring it 1/1

is there a way to make this page start at 1/5 by default ? it now starts at 1/2 by default

Vikings: could be .. will test it out on a fs board :)

Fencer: shouldnt my post at 12:13 on the 26th then be directly beneath silkwoods post instead of at the bottom ?

Fencer: although it shows some weird sorting as the post from mook53lhd shows above my previous 2 posts, while those were made earlier on the day :)

Hrqls: hah! that enwidened (?) the box again :)

Silkwood: another test :)

Fencer: ah nice!

hehe i just noticed the boxes dont get smaller anymore .. i guess we reached the minimum size (width) :)

Hrqls: lol .. the most-new posts in the thread are at the bottom though :( ... and they are getting smaller and smaller .. so as long as enough people answer to this thread their replies will disappear before shown :)

wow! nice! and a small box-link is also added next to the reply button :)

Tuesday: report it to a glob (or more than 1 if you dont think any glob can/will handle it)

dont post it on a public board, this will just start another flame war

are there any fellowship or team ratings or rankings ?

now there will be a lot more team tournaments/challenges it might be nice to view which team/fellowship ranks where in each game type :)

SMIRF Engine: i like the idea about those stats :)

part edited as it continued a misunderstanding :)

each tournament states the time a move can take ... consider that when you join a tournament

(i wont play any tournaments with 1 day per move .. i rarely play a tournament without free days or fixed weekends only .. i sometimes play tournament with 3 days per move .. i like the longer tournaments ... although those can finish quite fast as well ... of course all this depends on the game type as well :)

tonyh: hmm personally i have nothing against options ... but i thought this discussion was about changing the complete system (and not keeping the old system around :))

3 weeks holiday would cost you about 10 to 15 vacation days

what would happen to someone who first choses to have the full 30 days, and then later that year (when he used about 20 vacation days) switches to a couple of days per month ?

furbster: this year i had 2 vacations: 1 week in spring and 3 weeks in summer

in november i still had about 20 days vacation left on this site ... i saved those in case i would need them around christmas or for unforseen circumstances

i renewed in november and now have 30 days left .. which i wont use at all :)

good use of weekend days (you can change them once a week) helps a lot to preserve vacation days
have a look at your games and when they time out .. try to move in all your games just before your vacation .. if your fastest game has 3 days per move then you wont have to set vacation days for the first 2 days, you can set the weekend for the 3rd and 4th day, this will save you 4 vacation days already. be sure to have automatic vacation days if something goes weird (you might get into a next round of a tournament with 1 day per move, or someone starts a stairs game with you (although you should retire the stairs while on vacation)

also try to figure out when your opponent will move ... if (s)he will move the day after tomorrow, then you wont have to worry about your game timing out before that (plus the time you have for the move yourself)

try to finish the fast games before your vacation and only join games with longer times per move

use fixed vacation days when you will surely need them as this can preserve vacation days which would have been used for the games which would time out the day after

dont set a vacation day for the first day you will be back .. although you might not have a chance to make a move ... you might have a chance to do so .. which would have made it a waste .. let automagic vacation take care of that day if needed :)

all this helps a lot to preserve vacation days :)

have fun on your holidays!!!! :)