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15. November 2004, 16:59:49
PrettyBlueEyes 
Subject: Re: a possible bug...???
Thank you Fencer.. :)
I will post it..

15. November 2004, 16:57:30
Fencer 
Subject: Re: a possible bug...???
Yes, seems to be. Can you post it to the Bug Tracker?
I'll swap the dice manually.

15. November 2004, 16:54:41
PrettyBlueEyes 
Subject: a possible bug...???
In a crowded backgammon game #515641 my opponent is offering a draw.. I am attempting to switch the dice and not take the draw offer.. But when I click on swap dice it takes me back to my game page...Why can I not swap dice in this game??

15. November 2004, 16:13:42
coan.net 
Subject: Re: pics
I was trying to come up with a list myself of who I know has a "bigger" picture - was going to post it in the "Members only" board and hopefully have people add to it when they add one (that way we do not have to keep searching over and over) :-)

Who I know of so far:

Fencer, BIG BAD WOLF, panda, cariad, bumble, bobes, Stevie

15. November 2004, 16:12:15
MagicDragon 
I wouldn't want to have a bigger pic of myself! LOL In this 1, I was a little let just say a "little" sloshed when it was taken :)

15. November 2004, 16:09:45
rabbitoid 
Subject: pics
is there any way of telling who has got a large pic except going to the profile and trying the sensitive spot?

15. November 2004, 15:23:21
Artful Dodger 
nice work kevin!

15. November 2004, 14:00:43
cariad 
Hahaha! That was my first day back home after the sizzling sunshine of Builth Wells! Yeah right!

15. November 2004, 13:36:09
Stevie 
Hey Cariad
You look a little sun burnt in yours. Do you live in the wet and windy country or the hot one at the mo? LOL

15. November 2004, 13:24:09
cariad 
They're not. As long as you're a paid member (knight or rook).

15. November 2004, 13:22:54
Hrqls 
ah sorry i didnt know about the bigger pictures being for the golden (forgot the name :)) members

15. November 2004, 13:19:15
Stevie 
ohhhhhh even me? LMAO maybe youll have to make it wide and short rather than tall and thin LMAO

15. November 2004, 13:17:39
Fencer 
Sure :-)

15. November 2004, 13:13:13
Stevie 
Subject: Send them to info@brainking.com. 40x50 and 200x300 pixels.
oooooooooh does that mean we can all (paid members) have our bigger piccy up now ? :oD

15. November 2004, 11:22:46
Hrqls 
ok

15. November 2004, 11:22:15
Fencer 
I prefer to have them mailed.

15. November 2004, 11:19:27
Hrqls 
thanks! nice table ...

just found out most of it myself .. nice summary :)

i still have to make the pictures to the right size .. do you prefer me to mail the actual pictures or send the url of where they can be found (can be direct linked) as i will place online on photobucket to use in other places as well

15. November 2004, 11:13:51
Fencer 
I've also added a table of membership advantages and features, created by Kevin.
http://brainking.com/game/PaidMembership?p=1

15. November 2004, 11:13:44
bumble 
Bobes pic shouldn't be allowed. He looks way too intelligent! Oh well

another criterion: you must assume considerable concentration while playing chess (Bobes)

15. November 2004, 11:13:02
Fencer 
Btw, there is a proposal of new User Agreement provided by BIG BAD WOLF. Since it's more up-to-date and easier to understand than the current one, it will be officially released soon.
http://brainking.com/doc/bk.html

15. November 2004, 11:07:37
Fencer 
bumble: You forgot Bobes :-)

15. November 2004, 11:02:18
bumble 
Subject: Hot spot image
The criteria are: you have to own the site (Fencer), be a god (BBW), be fat(!) (panda), pretend to be sweet and innocent (cariad) or look like a complete twonk (hmmm....).

15. November 2004, 10:53:40
Hrqls 
thanks

15. November 2004, 10:51:41
Fencer 
Send them to info@brainking.com. 40x50 and 200x300 pixels.

15. November 2004, 10:48:56
Hrqls 
Subject: rookie questions : image
- how can i get an image next to my name ?
- how can i have a second image under image in my profile which will show up via javascript ?

14. November 2004, 21:39:02
BuilderQ 
My line4 rating never increases by more than 8 points, so it is stable. But I can get those 8 points from a win against a 2000 player or a 2300+ player, it makes no difference.

If there were all these fractional points that I am getting, sometimes I should get +9?

And the game with TheBig O that I mentioned was Spider Line4, played when my rating was provisional.

14. November 2004, 21:32:53
coan.net 
It also looks like you have already played over 130 games, which will also make your rating more stable (Will not fluxuate as much).

Sprayman already played about 40 games, so it should fluxuate a little more then you, but with a draw - it would be a lot less - very possible under 1 rating point of flux.

14. November 2004, 21:30:19
Pedro Martínez 
357 is not enough. You would lose at least one point if sprayman's rating was below 1800 or so.

14. November 2004, 21:29:21
BuilderQ 
Subject: Or how about this:
"The game is a draw.

BuilderQ: old BKR = 2061, new BKR = 2061 (0)
TheBig O: old BKR = 2430, new BKR = 2430 (0)"

14. November 2004, 21:22:43
BuilderQ 
Subject: Re: Ratings
"The game is a draw.

BuilderQ: old BKR = 2319, new BKR = 2319 (0)
sprayman: old BKR = 1962, new BKR = 1962 (0)"

With this sort of rating difference, how could our ratings only change by fractions?

14. November 2004, 21:18:43
coan.net 
Subject: Re: Ratings
BuilderQ - point 4

14. November 2004, 21:16:47
Pedro Martínez 
BuilderQ: What is "hundreds"?

14. November 2004, 21:10:54
BuilderQ 
Subject: Re: Ratings
Why is it that I can draw rated games with players rated hundreds of points above or below me, without either my rating, or my opponent's rating, changing? Which of BBW's points explains that?

14. November 2004, 20:44:45
Pafl 
Subject: Re: Ratings
"easy to understand" is not a quality of the rating formula ... rather of the one who uses it LOL
No, sorry, I do not understand it either :-) ... but I think the BK formula works well ... if you go through BBW's points carefully, you will find answers to all that doesn't seem "reasonable" to you ...

14. November 2004, 20:29:16
BuilderQ 
Subject: Ratings
Why doesn't BrainKing use a simpler rating formula, which produces reasonable results while being easy to understand? See http://www.uschess.org/cc/ccratefl.php

14. November 2004, 19:21:09
mal4inara 
Subject: Re: time zones
You are right, that we are GMT +13 so doesn't work for NZ. Our daylight savings time changed beginning of October, when we put clocks forward an hour. Just means I have to remember that when the clock says 11pm it really is midnight lol.

14. November 2004, 19:18:32
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: mamba
Modified by Pedro Martínez (14. November 2004, 19:19:27)
Here you can find the formula according to which the BKRs are counted:

http://math.bu.edu/people/mg/ratings/approx/approx.html

14. November 2004, 19:16:50
coan.net 
Subject: Rating Overview
1st: "unrated" players actually have ratings - just you don't see them until 4 games are played.

2nd: Ratings takes many things to figure a rating: Your rating, your oppenets ratings, how many games you played, and how many games your oppenent played.

3rd: Until 25 games are played (Well actually until 100+ games are played), ratings will fluxuate a lot. That is why it is a "provisional" rating until 25 games are played. I actually heard it can take up to 400 games before a rating is actually set pretty well.

4th: Even if you don't see ratings change, it may change. For example, before a game it may be 1500.1, then after the game it could be 1500.4 - but since you only see the "1500", it looks like it does not change... even though it does.

5th: How the formula works, it is even possible to lose points when you win! (When you don't have many games played, etc...) But I believe Fencer made it so you never lose points for a win, so at those times your rating will actually stay the same.

Anyway, in short - ratings will do very funny things until you get many games under your belt. At least 25 games, but probable more then 100 games is needed before your ratings will settle down.

14. November 2004, 18:57:47
Joseph S 
i see no reason to play higher rated players anymore if i'll get more points playing beginners that are unrated...i'll take an easy win for twice as many points anyday....

14. November 2004, 18:40:09
Joseph S 
Subject: Re: about points again
but i beat the higher rated players and got nothing like what somebody got against me and i wasn't even rated....you don't understand...in frogs i did win games against the higher rated players and only got anywhere from 15 to 18 points...i play a game of anti-frogs and lost and they get 38 points..!!....i didn't even have a rating in anti-frogs why did they get sooo many points but i play the better players at regular frogs and get a pittance of points when i win aginst good players...why did somebody get 38 points for winning against an unrated player but when i win against somebody rated # 7 or 8 i get not even half that many points....WHY..!!??

14. November 2004, 17:02:04
BuilderQ 
Subject: Re: about points again
The rating system's great, I can draw a game with someone rated 357 points below me and not lose any points!

14. November 2004, 16:49:27
pauloaguia 
Subject: Re: about points again
Mamba: that's the general idea behind the rating system: you get more points if you beat higher rated players. higher rated players are (suposedly)harder to beat, so when you win a game against one, you get a bigger reward. Makes sense, no?
Also, if you are 400 points behind and win a game against a big player, you'll get more points then if you're ratings are similar.

Of course there are other factors like number of games played and I think the formula is different if it's an established rating or a provisional one. But the general idea is the same.

14. November 2004, 14:02:34
Joseph S 
Subject: about points again
i won a game with Diogenes..i got 17 points
i won a game with Hanis...i got 18 points
both of these players had over a 2000 rating at the frog game when i won...
anybody i win a game with playing frogs that's below 1500 in points i get 0 points...now why did somebody get 38 points when they won agame with me at anti-frog..???.. me an unrated player at anti-frog..38 points..!!!...i'm sorry but i just don't think the points are being dished out fairly here.....also...now that i'm talking points.....when the site fried in october of 2003 and we were all assured that our points and ratings would be reinstated if we sent a message about what our scores were....and to go ahead and resign games we previsiouly had won ..well when you readjusted the points last week you must have forgotten all that because i now have losses for the games i resigned that i wouldn't have resiged if i wasn't assured all was ok....

14. November 2004, 13:05:40
Chessmaster1000 
Subject: Re: time zones
I think New Zealand is +12 GMT/UTC with fixes according to DST.
So now it's +13 GMT/UTC.......

14. November 2004, 11:56:07
rabbitoid 
you can always set your clock to GMT-11 and tell your computer he's got the date wrong :)

14. November 2004, 11:34:47
harley 
Subject: Interview with...
....................BAD BISHOP!!

Send me your questions for BadBishop! Hurry up, time is running out! See your question among the others and lets get another interesting interview!

14. November 2004, 11:21:32
Stevie 
I always thought the All Blacks were rather forward LOL

14. November 2004, 11:21:07
myfanwy 
....I think!

14. November 2004, 11:20:18
myfanwy 
Subject: Re: time zones
But New Zealand is +13 GMT. It is half an hour away from the 15th.

14. November 2004, 09:39:42
Fencer 
Subject: Re: time zones
The dropdown list contains all zones from GMT -12:00 to GMT +12:00. It must work for everyone.

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