BIG BAD WOLF: The only problem with that is if I set up a game where the minimum bid is 19,000 in a game where the person with the lowest bid gets booted from the game, then technically anyone who bids the minimum should be gone! I think bidding the minimum (lowest possible) and staying in the game just isnt right or in the spirit of the intended game.

I think this problem could be solved if I just made the rules a minimum 19000 bid and anyone who bids below 19001 will be asked to bid 0 the next round, then it would be clear from the beggining that anyone who bids below 19001 will be gone.

I know what you are trying to do - and that is get a game to start with 1,000 points each - but that is not was is being done here (Fencer will hopefully get it set up do to this at some point.)

What is being done is a game that starts with 20,000 points WITH a minimum first bet of 19,000.... which is similar to a game that starts with 1,000 points - but not the same.

If you want everyone to bid above 19,001 in the first bid - then I would think that would be inportant information to have in the rules of the game before it starts.

If someone bids the minimum bet ( o ) in a normal game, they are gone, it should be the same in every game... If you bet the minimum bet you should be out of the game.

Czuch Chuckers: Precisely. Minimum bet, by definition, drops into the pond. I don't understand eny other interpretation.

Czuch Chuckers: Then what is called the minimum by your logic isn't really the minimum, is it? I've listed both cases and you still aren't grasping it. The next time you set up one of these Minimum Bet Pond games would you clearly, let me repeat that, clearly state exactly how much must be bet on one's first turn?
It says 19000 and you ask for it as the minimum, then 19000 is acceptable as far as I can see. If you really mean 19000 + 1 or more, please state that. Then I'll know the real minimum is actually 19001 and nothing will have changed except that. Then you'll have someone bet 19001 and someone wil bet 1856 and you'll be right back here arguing the same thing we've been arguing about all day, because it's still the minimum and it doesn't change nothing.

Actually it is the lowest bet, not the minimum bet that drops you in the pond. Just in most cases boath are the same.

I would say if mimimum bet is 19000...then minimum bet should be ok :oD

Stevie: me too. quite simple.

Instead of a minimum starting bid, maybe there can be parameters set up to change how much everyone starts with.

If everyone has 1000 at the beginning, that would be the same as a "minimum 19000" bid to begin.

Then you can just play normally.

Walter Montego: Walter, I think you missed the point. Let ME try to be simpler. In a normal game 0 is the minimum bet. As such, any bet of 0 is perfectly legal. Also it will guarantee you falling into the poind. I am saying that in our game 19000 is the same: perfectly legal, but guarantees your exit.

Walter Montego: Yes, I agree I will have to be more clear next time. But, like Grenv stated, in a normal game the minimum bet is 0 and you will always be out of the game with a zero bet. I just thought it was self evident that a bet of 19,000 was the same as betting 0 in a normal game, and you should be in the pond.


And Stevie... yes a minimum bet is okay, just as a bet of 0 in a normal game is okay, it just means you do not continue in the game.

EdTrice: I believe Fencer has that planed - to have an option of how many points to start with.

Also have an option to have different bonuses - ranging from none to 500.

At least that is the last plan that I have heard.

BIG BAD WOLF:

We need a "Ponds for Dummies" option, starting a pond with 4 points.

would you join it anyone?

yes, usng the spreadsheet, it would be a guaranteed win...

LOL

i'm serious Stevie.....

ill win using a washing up bottle...a cereal box and some double sided sticky tape LOL

blue peter stylie LOL

sticky back plastic... cant fault it..... guaranteed sucess.....

Ed - where's this spreadsheet????

On my hard drive.

Stevie: Nice!

EdTrice: Is the pot calling the kettle black? Just who started the dummies and why can't they take a little ribbing?

Actually I would also like to request to lower the limit of players needed to start a pond.

I would like to see the 16 player min. be lowered to lets say 10.

Another VERY interesting pool

http://brainking.com/game/Pond?g=25

has anyone been in enough finished ponds to get a rating yet?

ratings is not ready yet

Stevie:
I have finished 6 ponds - but no rating :-(

Mely: OK :o(

EdTrice: Nope..it was not aggressive so I will ask again

Ed...will you be joining your own tournament if you started one called that?

EdTrice: Just to be exact, you are not a paying member, you won the membership in my prize tournament.

EdTrice: Im not... you havent played a game yet.. so thought you would need to start with other learners :o)

Anyone who posts a baiting or aggressive post from here on in will be hidden for 24 hours.

the only post ive left is a general one. Please do as Stardust requested

because its a general statement

EdTrice: as Steve posted , it is a general post.

Ed, sorry..you are hidden for 48 hrs for conntinue-ing after being asked not to

I got Bronze medallion Ug and used to swim competitivly...so me also LOL

I was about 13 LOL

Let's get back on topic,shall we?

ughaibu: Yes.. called looking in the mirror

STOP

lets do as Stardust asked and get back on topic