Czuch Chuckers: I see. Thanks.

Computers that surf the net are about $500 these days, monitor and all. I couldn't live without high speed having had it for years.
Never been bothered by a virus, most of them are developed by the vurus software companies I think :) I can also surf and watch TV, but of course I have to turn my head!

Back to BackGammon. Can you make the tourny 3 hours total, would that help? I would play that if the timing was right.

grenv: Well, it is cheap (and off topic?) its inexpensive too. LOL

a hundred bucks is all I paid. But you get some advantages besides the expense (we still pay a good price per month for access though) First, no viruses and stuff like that. Our monitor is our tv set (I have 3 tvs, a 27 inch screen one just for my WebTV) I sit on the couch and type away on a remote keyboard or we have a regular remote as well which functions all of the options as well.
We also have a lot of tv functions as well, which is important to many. Picture in picture so you can surf the web and watch tv at the same time. Plus it is great for recording tv as well. You can search the tv listings and click a show to record anytime it is on or search by artist and it will record anything they are in anytime, for example.
It really does anything that most people do on a computer ie email, search, play games, whatever, but w3e are not compatible with many sites, especially if they use flash and such. Thats why so many of us are here, because Fencer does a great job upgrading this site without leaving us behind! Also, like I said before, no viruses to worry about or buying programs like spywear etc.... because we dont really have any hard drive. But if you really use a computer, or demand high speeds, it probably isnt for you.

It's cheaper than a computer. I'm not sure how much the new ones are (MsnTV2), $200 or so, I think. But you can get the originals for under $100 ... The monthly charge isn't any cheaper.. (19.99 for the old classic, 21.99 for the newer classic, and 24.99 for webtv plus.. Not sure how much for msntv2) .. It was intended for the unit to not only surf the net, but enhance your TV viewing experience.. I don't know much about that, because I only use it for the net.. (And it's the Plus unit that has the most interactivity with TV)

It's other marketable quality is its ease of use. You don't really need to know a thing about computers to successfully surf the internet with it.

My personal reason for the preference is that I like sitting on my couch to surf and play my games. I don't want to be stuck at a desk..

Anyways, I guess this is kinda off topic. lol..

Is webTV cheap? What is the attraction other than that? Just curious is all, I've never seen it, or heard of anyone I know using it.

Ok Ok all the negativity!!

I changed it again to a maximum of 5 players, so that onlt 4 games for me.... better?
LOL
Im gonna go play on a friends computer anyway!

Czuch Chuckers: can you play 7 games in only 2 hours chuck? You struggled with 3 or 4 in 1 hour last night

Ok, I made it an 8 person maximum with 8 player sections, so it will all be a one section tournament, and there wont be more than 1 round.

Czuch Chuckers: You might want to look at my reply on the tournaments board if you have not seen it yet.

how it is setup, it could take up to 4 hours - and more then 5 people signup, then add up to 5 more hours to it.

Czuch Chuckers: I could not figure out why you were playing so slowly! It was Ok when all four games were running, but way too slow when it got down to the last two, and I left the computer to read the paper for 5 minutes between turns - and still had over 30 minutes left in each game. Maybe we need "Web TV" and "Computer" variants so people don't get bored!

rod03801: Yeah, I found myself rushing way to much and yelling for the moves to be made faster. Sometimes I would just stay on the game and hkeep hitting reload until it was my turn and I was still playing over twice as slow as the computer users :(

It was fun. But yes, with WebTV, the 1 hour format was WAY too much pressure. I'm pretty sure the computer users had no problems though.
I was probably actually at -3 minutes with Skittles, and probably -1 minute with Czuch.. 2 hours would have been perfect for that length game with WebTV. 1 hour would be fine for hyper though.

If some are made later today, I might play again.. Maybe I'll set up a 1 hour Hyper one..

wayney: Well about 2 hours sounds right. The opponent has an hour, and he had an hour - the other person used almost all their time also along with chuck - so a total of 2 hours is about right.

I don't think any games took (much) more then 2 hours.

BIG BAD WOLF: as chuck said, his game was about 2 hours and he was well and truly over his time limit. The script definately did not pick it up until more than 5 or 10 minutes

You would have to ask Fencer the exact times, but like Czuch said - I'm sure there is a script that runs every so often which "time out" games which are past their limits.

I don't think it is every hour - maybe every 5-10 minutes? Again, that is just a guess.

I was watching the "live" games and did notice that a couple of you were at 0 minutes left - but even still without them timing out, it looked like the tournaments worked very well - and pretty quick.

Czuch Chuckers: yes I know it is correct and wasn't asking, I was just explaining it for others who may not understand the format.
I think I set the games open to 1700+ bkr

wayney: That sounds correct to me...

Time Limit 1/0.12/2
That means you start with 1 day and get a bonus 12 hours every time you make a move and can build up a maximum time left of 2 days.

LIVE BACKGAMMON TOURNAMENT!
Sign up til 11:00 est
starts approximatly noon est

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=9767&trnst=0

Agreed...

Czuch Chuckers: but my point here is it kinda makes the strict time limit pointless for a need so exacting suck as a 1 hour game

wayney: I think games end up timing out when the script is read only after the time hits zero and not when it actually hits zero, but im not sure how long it takes, if it is every hour or what....

Czuch Chuckers: is it listed in the bugs? No point in having the option of such a time constraint if it doesn't work !!!

Yes, I like the idea, but webtv is too slow for 4 1 hour games at once, I could not keep up and I think Rod had the same problem, except for some reason the games did not time out when they hit 0 time left? How long does it really take to time out of a game with no time left? It took me 2 hours to finish all the games going as fast as could go with webtv :( Anyway, thanks for playing you guys and gals and I will try it again today, maybe a 2 hour total limit, cause its raining here and I have nothing else to do!

Congrats Pedro

Yeah, I liked it too...and I'm up to participate again if Chuck creates it soon...:)

Czuch Chuckers: Good tournament format - would be happy top do it again some time! Thanks to all the players.

The tournament will actually start about an hour after the deadline time is reached.

Since at the start time, the tournament is put into the "waiting" mode. Then 1 hour later, the tournament will be created.

looks like midnight is out!

Im gonna be in bed.... my bkr was at its highest ever this morning, now I will have lost 40 points 8 at a time just today :(

Czuch Chuckers: well I have the firewood in now, so we won't freeze tonight! I'm ready!

yeah, this sucks, I will be timing out in all of them, I tried to do this for the past 3 hours now, and I am off to bed soon.... oh well there goes my rating :(

Czuch Chuckers: Well I'll go out and do my jobs now and hope I am back in time to play - this is probably the best solution.

I think they will start at 6 cet/midnite ET

oo late, I dont have any control; to delet it anymore :(
this really sucks that the games are ready to go but it could be up to an hour before they start?

the games have been set and just waiting to start... if it takes too long I will just delete it and try again tomorrow. Thanks for signing up though!

Czuch Chuckers: When are we starting? I have to go out in an hour, and we seem to be 5 minutes late!

pgt: I dont think Chuck can play. Just one game with me currently and he is struggling with time severely
http://brainking.com/en/ShowGame?g=914066

grenv: Don't worry - I'll represent us

Czuch Chuckers: My mistake... thought it was one hour per move.

I can't play now... maybe next time. Signing out.

grenv: Have you ever played a game of backgammon live (I am sure you have) ust roll the dice take your move and your opponent does the same.... my game is set up so it has a 1 hour total game time per person... give it a go! we ned 3 more people!

Czuch Chuckers: But backgammon frequently lasts 30-40 moves or more. Is this some sort of "see who can stay awake the longest" competitions we used to do in college?

Czuch Chuckers: Nah, just not gonna play tourneys where people like Kata Liana intentionally hold up play.
I'll stick to my new lightning games.
care for a game Chuck?

wayney: Time for an upgrade?

Czuch Chuckers: that would be great but playing in your other tourney at the moment.

Here is a attempt to have a "live" backgammon tournament, for anyone online right now! It is an experimant , so I hope it all works out. 1 hour total time limit, and I hope to get it started soon!

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=9764&tri=49587&trnst=0

*nod* at the moment i like it ... but thats just because i only have few games going on :)

its a good thing that i can stop the sequence though ... will have to remember that :)

who are you all on dailygammon ? invite me for a game please ;)

Hrqls: You can stop moving, and go move in another game, but the game will still be on your top page waiting for you to finish the sequence.

Hrqls: It seems odd at first, but you get used to it, and I appreciate the way it speeds up play.

frolind: heh true .. just cutting back on games now because i will be on a holiday soon .. after that i will join more games once again :)

i like to try to remember my plans though ..

i agree with you about the cube decision .. its weird that the site always assumes your opponent will accept ... i would hate to move several extra moves for nothing :)

hmm i never tried it .. but can you stop moving future moves ? can you just stop moving ahead and play your other game ? i guess you can .. will have to try it :)

Pedro Martínez: *PLOP* ... although
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
I just don't have the time to return all love. ~*~