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Discuss about five in line game or find new opponents. (Also Pro and Swap five in line discussion.)


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4. Апреля 2005, 01:37:59
NikNack 
I suck at playing five in line. I need some coaching on what I am doing wrong.

2. Февраля 2005, 00:48:28
furbster 
i think so, my ratings suck in the new varients but is around 1700 in normal 5 in a line

31. Января 2005, 21:23:38
Hrqls 
Субъект: Re:
BuilderQ: and even lower in swap ...*ponder* .. maybe only tournaments were played where lots of beginners players against experts ?

31. Января 2005, 04:37:10
nosovs 
Субъект: Re:
Russian players and (Renju International Federation) had tested this Rules 1985-1991.
There were two world championships in this Pro Go-moku.
Black can win surely. May be swap version is try for Go-moku.

30. Января 2005, 18:59:08
BuilderQ 
Has anyone noticed that Black's win percentage is actually slightly lower in pro five in line than regular?

30. Января 2005, 14:56:13
nosovs 
Субъект: Information
OPEN RUSSIAN CHAMPIONSHIP IN GOMOKU. OPEN CUB OF SIBERIA IN RENJU.

Russian Renju and Gomoku Federation will organize the Open Russian
Championship in gomoku among men and women on May, 6-9, 2005 in
Tyumen.

Tournament will be carried out with "gambler" rules:

1st black stone - in the center of a board, then white stone - in the
central 5x5 square, and choose of color after 3 moves.

Competitions will be played in 2 stages.
1st stage - May, 7-8 - 1st League, Swiss System in 9 rounds.

Time control is 40 minutes for all the game. 1-6 places receive the
right of participation in the High League.

2nd stage - May, 9-10 - High League, Round-Robin System, 12
participants. Time control is also 40 minutes for all the game.

Day of arrival is May, 6.
Opening Ceremony will be held on May, 6 at 19-00.

Competitions are to be played in the City Chess Club.

The strongest Russian sportsmen will participate in the tournament.
Foreign participants are welcome!

Open cup of Siberia in renju, on May, 9-10. 7 rounds on the Swiss
system. Time control is 60 minutes for all the game. For the
participants who are not acting in the High league.

We ask all participants to send applications till April, 1.

Contact information: e-mail ar.to@mail.ru,
tel.(3452)452770, (3452)452702, Alex Saranchin.

Saranchin Alexander,
The Manager of The Russian Renju and Gomoku Federation
_______________________________________________
______________________

21. Января 2005, 13:53:03
Chaosu 
I know that but this allow to play normal gomoku as 'Swap gomoku' what shall be not allowed.

12. Января 2005, 10:54:10
Fencer 
Субъект: Re: Link
nosovs: Now it's fixed.

11. Января 2005, 14:07:11
nosovs 
Субъект: Link

11. Января 2005, 10:19:51
Fencer 
Субъект: Re: One more bug
nosovs: Can you give me the game ID?

11. Января 2005, 08:00:07
nosovs 
Субъект: One more bug
In swap game my we have 2 games match.
In first game my opponent put 3 moves oppening and I swap.
Then the next game my opponent again put me 3 moves oppenning instead me !
You need names Tantative Black and Tantative white, for better understanding

6. Января 2005, 18:19:31
Fencer 
Субъект: Bug
There is a bug in pro and swap version, you can win even if you place more than 5 pieces in a line [which is wrong].
It will be fixed tomorrow and also mentioned in the rules [exactly 5 pieces in a line wins].

6. Января 2005, 12:55:23
Fencer 
It is mentioned in the rules.

6. Января 2005, 12:32:05
AlanP 
you have to put three stones and send moves

6. Января 2005, 12:27:19
nosovs 
Субъект: Swap Five in a Row
How to make moves ?
I put two stones at the board, but how I can make move ?

6. Января 2005, 10:02:09
Fencer 
Субъект: Re:
Chaosu: If white puts one stone to a corner, black will swap and probably win the game. If white doesn't want to lose, he must start with a balanced position.

5. Января 2005, 15:27:28
Hrqls 
if white places his stone in the corner then black can start as being white .. so why would white do that ?

5. Января 2005, 13:26:58
Chaosu 
As niicegiirll said some players probably will put stones in corners so game will start as normal. To avoid these situations i want propose restrictions for first move. It should be putted in centtral square (maybe 7x7?). : )

5. Января 2005, 12:02:41
Hrqls 
Субъект: first Pro Five in Line tournament
i wanted to start a tournament (my first). at the same time fencer introduced some new variants.

so i took the opportunity to create a tournament in Pro Five in Line :)

you can sign up here and have fun! :)

17. Декабря 2004, 23:57:05
Dawn 
Nothingness...
Here white moves first and black wins a stalemate.
At IYT black moves first and white wins a stalemate.

17. Декабря 2004, 15:03:30
Nothingness 
Субъект: advantage
mainly since first move wins most of the games its is such a huge advantage to go first that if you are able to draw the game with the 2nd color you deserve the win. im curious how the top players in the world play when they move 2nd.

14. Декабря 2004, 17:48:58
Pafl 
Nothingness: The "serious" matches on this site (between opponents who are good enough to use the advantage of the 1st move) are alway 2game matches with alternating colours ... which pretty much solves it :-)

13. Декабря 2004, 22:23:55
Stevie 
But surely a draw is just that...A draw, so why should one of the players win?

12. Декабря 2004, 23:20:21
Nothingness 
Субъект: question about rules
why dont white win if its a drw at the end like you do on iyt? since black has a huge advantage by going first white desereves the win for a draw.

20. Августа 2004, 23:16:58
BuilderQ 
Субъект: Document about First Player Advantage

5. Августа 2004, 17:10:11
niicegiirll 
swap is very funny and give to this game more openings,not only closed game and ofcourse if standard opening good looking in some corner,like hungarians specialties:-)btw but there is no players skill for this:-)

7. Июля 2004, 20:04:21
soul reaper 
Субъект: re: swap
The easiest way is do force 1st player to do all 3 moves, then 2nd player to choose the color, this has been done on polish site www.kurnik.pl and work fine there. And swap really makes the game much more balanced.

11. Мая 2004, 15:15:55
mmammel 
Субъект: Re: swap
Yes, I think the swap version would make it more fair, and yes, the restriction on the second player's first move MUST be included if this version is to be implemented.

17. Апреля 2004, 13:37:13
VikingX 
Субъект: "Swap" 5-in-line
I would like to see the "swap" version of 5-in-line at BK. The swap completely takes away 1st player`s advantage and would require only VERY little modifications to the current version.
The swap-version is simply regular 5-in-line with 2. player having an option of choosing whether he wants to play as black or white after total of 3 moves have been made. I personally think that 2nd player`s 1st move should be restricted so that it cannot be made OUTSIDE the same 5x5 center square inside which 1st player`s 2nd move cannot be made in Pente or pro-gomoku. Without this restriction player 2 could make his first move into 1 of the corners and get the advantage to himself.
Even in pro-gomoku the 1. players advantage is very big, but not so with the swap.
Let`s hear some comments...especially about the restriction for 2. player which I proposed here.

13. Апреля 2004, 20:14:42
Jason 
Субъект: Section 1
sorry but i forgot about the 2nd move restriction . so i resigned my games ... totally slipped my mind ..
Jason.

1. Апреля 2004, 17:00:01
VikingX 
Субъект: Section 1
At my request, Fencer has just fixed the standings in section one. Jason and nicegirll both are now declared winners.
A great final coming up after Duke and I have finished our games in section2.

19. Января 2004, 21:21:22
VikingX 
Субъект: Tournament announcement
Player Sowa has not used the 2. move restriction in at least 3 of his tournament games as white in section 2 of the tournament.

This is against the rules of the tournament and therefore, all games played by him and against him will not be a part of this tournament. I will manually count the points in section 2 and if this produces a different section winner than the automatic system, I will arrange a real final for the real section winners.

Those who are playing against Sowa in the tournament can continue their games or resign them early, when it should not affect the ratings. In any case, those games are no longer a part of the tournament and will not affect who will be announced as the winner.

17. Января 2004, 08:59:04
VikingX 
Субъект: Invitational Top25 five-in-line tournament.....
...is about to start!
I want to remind all players that the 2. move restriction for white must be used in all games.
If some player doesn`t use the restriction I will manually count the points leaving out all games played against that player, and if necessary, arrange a new final round into which the "real" finalists will be invited.

Good luck to everybody.

23. Декабря 2003, 17:01:51
VikingX 
Субъект: Invitational Top25 five-in-line tournament
It is time to find out who is the best five-in-line player at Brainking. To avoid "surewin" -moves the 2. move restriction (like in Pro Gomoku) will be used for player1 (white). If you are not familiar with this restriction you can find it explained in rules description for Pente. All five-in-line players in Top25 have been invited (including provisional ratings). If anybody outside the top25 feels like he/she deserves to be playing in the tournament, feel free to ask me for an invite. Games start 16.1. so that pawns will have time to finish their on-going games.

29. Августа 2003, 06:44:05
Princess Kammy 
workin on it for ya

29. Августа 2003, 06:38:56
SonAnh 
Is there any prize tourney in the whole ?

24. Августа 2003, 13:19:22
Princess Kammy 
no problem any time :)

24. Августа 2003, 13:11:14
ANIMALxxxx 
thx Lonestar
ummmm... Princess Kam???

24. Августа 2003, 13:06:26
Princess Kammy 
howdy all.....i have a tourney that has five in a line but not a prize tourney sorry...since i see you would like a prize tourney i will see what i can do :)

24. Августа 2003, 08:49:04
Kevin 
If someone starts one. It's up to the creator to provide the prize, so if you can find someone who'll create one, then yes...there will be :-) lol

24. Августа 2003, 07:59:44
ANIMALxxxx 
is there ever a five in line prize tourney?

23. Августа 2003, 22:02:00
Princess Kammy 
Субъект: Tourney
hello all :) FOr all interested in a five in a line tourney there is one waiting for you. Name is We're Off and Running.

Have a great day!!

20. Августа 2003, 19:36:51
Kevin 
Yes, it happened to everyone.

20. Августа 2003, 13:34:38
SonAnh 
What happened yesterday? some my game moves were back, and they knew what I wanna do... did it happen to someone else ?

16. Августа 2003, 11:38:30
SonAnh 
If I had 1 million USD I'll bye 1 Brain Rook and do other things :P

16. Августа 2003, 11:36:31
Fencer 
SonAnh: It can be yours for one million USD :-)

16. Августа 2003, 11:34:01
SonAnh 
plz borrow me your White Brain King Mr. Fencer, I would join more than 1 tournament then :P

15. Августа 2003, 03:45:34
Princess Kammy 
Субъект: Re:
wow that game is going strong :) good luck to both of you :)

14. Августа 2003, 08:53:31
Backoff 
WOW

14. Августа 2003, 08:50:30
Fencer 
This game.
Full board ;-)

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