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22. Novembro 2006, 03:09:54
alanback 
Assunto: Doncha hate messages like this?
Modificado por alanback (22. Novembro 2006, 03:11:13)





From:
arpa
Date and time: 21. November 2006, 18:05:09
Subject: You are not the tournament winner
Tournament: Ciao from Italy # 57 - Nackgammon (1800+) cube 5 (Nackgammon)

Your final position is 2.
Winner of the tournament: arpa

22. Novembro 2006, 09:43:52
Hrqls 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
alanback: yeah :( *comfort*

i think we should have a tournament bkr in which you also get points for being 2nd in a tournament, or when you reach a next round :)

22. Novembro 2006, 18:58:24
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Tourney points/ratings
Hrqls: That's a good idea. They do that at Vog for one of their tourney types. It's done as the percentage of the track that you succeeded on, so the winner gets 100%. The percentage for the rest depends on the number of rounds. A semi-finalist in a 4 round tourney will get 75% (25% for each of the three wins), a 2nd rounder in a 5-round tourney gets 20%, etc. As there are automatic byes you can still pick up points even if you lost your first (but 2nd round) match. It's not a flawless system by any means but it does add to the competition.

That points for tourneys. A rating for tourney play would be the average position (percentage0 reached. Over 50% is good, while 70% is phenomenal.

22. Novembro 2006, 14:23:21
Andersp 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
alanback: Not as much as i hate this:
Since you cant make a legal move...blablabla!!

22. Novembro 2006, 19:11:26
alanback 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
Andersp:  You're right.  Maybe we should suggests to Fencer that he incorporate some sort of "autopass" feature ;-)

22. Novembro 2006, 20:00:35
Andersp 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
alanback: Autopass!! Wouldnt that be nice!! ..i buy you a "bishop" if you can convince him LOL

22. Novembro 2006, 20:09:53
alanback 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
Andersp:  If I can do that, you should buy me the Pope!

22. Novembro 2006, 20:16:02
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
Andersp: If you're a FireFox user and would like the next best thing to a BrainKing Autopass ... there's the AutoPlayer which does forced moves (passes or where there's only one move possible) on your behalf (unless there's a message from your opponent or other reasons why the game needs your attention). For instance

22. Novembro 2006, 23:30:39
Andersp 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
playBunny: Thanks..im not using Firefox but ill check it out :)

23. Novembro 2006, 04:35:48
Sylfest Strutle 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
AutoPass even works with lynx. Just tested it. :)

23. Novembro 2006, 05:41:05
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
Modificado por playBunny (23. Novembro 2006, 20:47:25)
fakarten, Andersp: Doh! Silly me. Yes, the AutoPlayer action is done by Hexkid's server and the user's OS and browser don't matter when it's in use. It's the other BK goodies that he's developing for Firefox. Thanks for reminding me. Your browser does need javascript for registering. There's a bit more information in the FAQ.

There ya go, Anders! Hexkid's got you covered!

23. Novembro 2006, 16:42:27
Andersp 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
playBunny: Thanks again :)..but dont you think there is a risk that Fencer will make this feature "disabled", we know how much he loves "empty clicking"

23. Novembro 2006, 20:50:42
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
Andersp: All the more to see the adverts! I guess you could enjoy it while it lasts. Who knows, if we capture a fairy and squeeze out a wish, maybe Fencer might even take hexkid's method as a simple but effective way to implement autopass within the BK server. ;o)

23. Novembro 2006, 21:20:27
Thad 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
playBunny: Could Fencer prevent it if he decided to? I don't know the ins and outs of how it works that well, but I like it! Go hexkid!!

23. Novembro 2006, 21:27:10
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
Thad: I can't see any advantage for Fencer in doing it but it's possibly by blocking the IP address of hexkid's server. But there are ways round that blockage and ways round the ways so we could see a technowar between the two whizzes as hexkid tries to fire his autoplays into Fencer's server while Fencer tries to bat them away into the null regions of cyberspace.

23. Novembro 2006, 22:08:28
hexkid 
Assunto: Re: Autopass

23. Novembro 2006, 23:21:15
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
hexkid: The White Flag!! And I was so looking forward to the War of the Whizzes. :-(

27. Novembro 2006, 00:03:42
coan.net 
Assunto: Re: Autopass
Thad: I don't think Fencer minds, but be aware that using hexkid's stuff is "outside" of the brainking system, so let say if it messes something up - like resigns a game automatically, it is not something that Fencer is responsible for or would fix - BUT that is just an extreme example - hexkid & others have been testing their system for awhile now..... but it is a case of "use at your own risk".

22. Novembro 2006, 19:00:39
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
alanback: Subject: You are not the tournament winner

Lol. I quite agree. Why not pour cold water on me while you're at it!

I think it should be
Subject: Woohoo! You came second in a tournament.

Well done, Alan. You came second. ;o)

22. Novembro 2006, 19:06:23
grenv 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
playBunny: Well I think it should be:

subject: you're a loser

You failed, yet again, to win a tournament. Give up and stop embarrassing yourself.

22. Novembro 2006, 19:10:26
alanback 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
grenv:  You can have that one, I'll take PB's ;-)

22. Novembro 2006, 20:23:43
playBunny 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
alanback: LOL. Especially when you *are* the winner! I've just seen your bug report. ;o)

22. Novembro 2006, 20:29:16
alanback 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
playBunny: I didn't c heck the S-B myself, but another user pointed it out to me, so I felt it my duty as a good citizen to report it ;-)

22. Novembro 2006, 22:51:47
jryden 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
alanback: Your S-B looks correct to me. You lost to a weaker player, arpa lost to a stronger player (namely you).

22. Novembro 2006, 23:10:47
Thad 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
jryden: It's wrong. arpa's S-B should only be 4.

22. Novembro 2006, 23:32:31
Peón Libre 
Assunto: Re: Doncha hate messages like this?
jryden:
It's true that arpa lost to a stronger player, but this is not relevant for the Sonneborn-Berger calculation. What matters is that alanback defeated a stronger player.

arpa's and redsales's S-Bs were computed incorrectly. The correct result is:


Section 1 BKR 1 2 3 4 5 Points S-B (?) Order
1 mrbugs001 2040 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 5.
2 alanback 2004 1 1 0 1 3.0 5.0 1.
3 arpa 1961 1 0 1 1 3.0 4.0 2.
4 Ebru 1840 1 1 0 0 2.0 3.0 3.
5 redsales 1732 1 0 0 1 2.0 2.0 4.

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