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12. 11月 2003, 17:58:15
Grim Reaper 
件名: Re: gothic world championship
I simply don't understand the negative posts of Spirou and that other person. Here I offer thousands of dollars with no entrance fee, and I get this negative feedback. A horrible crash occurred, so to be fair, we had to cancel the tournament.

Playing for money has always elevated the quality of play. Look what large corporate sponsorship has done for golf. Even mediocre pros can make about $250,000 a year and never finish in the top prizes!

Why cannot the same happen for chess and Gothic Chess?

If you have something negative you want to express about the tournaments and prizes, do us all a favor, keep it to yourself.

I am asking those who want to participate in the event what would be a reasonable amount to pay in order to enter?

12. 11月 2003, 15:56:09
danoschek 
件名: gothic world championship
promises promises - I am a prophet ... ~*~

12. 11月 2003, 15:05:11
Spirou 
件名: Re: Question about World Championship
In my opinion, playing for money, mainly exacerbate greediness and consequently encourage the use of programs. Those programs killing the fun of play. In other words sleepying the imagination. How a sad future.
Chess and its variants are rare plays the fun is self-sufficient for enjoy and yet meaningless ratings points already could pertubate the fair-play of someone. Imagine when golden calf come in.

12. 11月 2003, 14:45:03
Grim Reaper 
件名: Re: Question about World Championship
It would be nice to be able to offer prizes for a great many players, but the point of tournament play is to encourage you to strive hard to make it to the top tier. The top 20 finishers of an event like the World Open do get prize money, but they also have 500+ players per section paying $250 to enter.

By annoucing a larger prize fund at different internet sites, we could attract more players here, which is the objective.

I tried a $20 tournament here once with the winnings being a function of the players who register, and there was little interest.

So, I think I will offer prizes as follows:

$10,000
$5,000
$2,500
$1,000
$500
$200
$200
$200
$200
$200

For places 1 through 10.

The question is, what should the entrance fee be?

12. 11月 2003, 09:26:23
Thad 
件名: Re: Question about World Championship
You would do better to offer more prizes, perhaps to the top ten finishers or even top twenty. After all, most of us stand little chance of winning the whole thing, so you could offer $1, $1,000, or even $1,000,000 and it wouldn't matter to 90% of the players (including me).

Also, I vote to scrap the 2003 tourney. Even if you started it today, the bulk of it would take place in 2004 and could even extend so long that it would make getting next year's played during the year and after the 2003 tourney is finished quite difficult. (sorry for the run-on sentence).

Thad

12. 11月 2003, 07:58:40
Fencer 
件名: Re: Question about World Championship
Would the entreance fee be still $50 or higher?

12. 11月 2003, 07:30:22
Caissus 
件名: Re: Question about World Championship
I am for a $ 50.000,- prize tournement!

12. 11月 2003, 00:04:23
Grim Reaper 
件名: Question about World Championship
Would players prefer a $10,000 first prize with an entrance fee, or would you prefer no entrace fee and just win the "title" of World Champion?

The reason I ask is because I have been talking to some seasoned chess players who would be interested in playing Gothic, and they were wondering what all of you think about it.

11. 11月 2003, 17:34:51
coan.net 
Thanks Fencer - looks better now. :-)

11. 11月 2003, 17:33:06
Badinage 
件名: Only 4 Days Left to Enter this one too :o)
OK Here goes again.

We had a superb 28 people signed for this the first time around, lets see if we can get the same? Prize Tourney One Year Rook Membership

It would be nice if the winner was already a member that they donate to a pawn somewhere, but this is only a suggestion :O)

Aragon's Checkered Past II

Still a good bit down from last time :)

11. 11月 2003, 17:32:12
Badinage 
件名: ONLY 4 Days Left to enter
If like me you have scrapped all games and started from scratch your Main Page will look quite bare LOL

Sign up here for ALL Checker Variations and get some games going again :o)

Oh, and have fun!!

Checkers, Checkers and More Checkers

~~Aragon KM~~

11. 11月 2003, 08:06:22
Fencer 
I need the tournament ID.

11. 11月 2003, 07:47:42
coan.net 
件名: re: new tournament
Yea, i've already sent a message to Fencer about the tournament that is messed up. I've seen it happen before, and usually Fencer can fix it pretty quickly.

The only problem that I seen was there were about 15-20 pawns that were removed from the tournament because they did not have enough space (which was only suppose to be 5 free spaces needed), but since some sections produced many many games (10,15+), a lot of paws got kicked out - which I'm not sure if Fencer can put them back or not - have to wait until Fencer is back on-line! :-)

11. 11月 2003, 06:16:11
Pioneer54 
件名: New tournaments..... in spades!!
Hey BBW,

Have you seen the crosstables you've produced? Lots of extended sections, and our names appear several times each.
: )

I trust you and/or Fencer are on the case!!?

11. 11月 2003, 06:04:27
Grim Reaper 
件名: Re: Gothic Chess Tournament
Everyone who voiced an opinion voted to cancel the tournament. Since games could not possibly be restored to their prior state, it would not be fair to anyone to allow it to continue.

If you read the posts on here, you will see I have posted several "words" to everyone. I was not going to personally send message to everyone in the event, that is what these forums are for.

11. 11月 2003, 05:19:00
Ironlance 
件名: Gothic Chess Tournament
Hey Gothic Inventor, I feel we have been screwed on this tournament! Have not heard a word from you since the little "crash" on the site.....

10. 11月 2003, 19:53:59
rabbitoid 
件名: Re: Vote on 2003 World Championship
thanks for asking, Ed
I for one find myself with far too many ongoing GC games from previous tournaments to start new commitments right now.
VOTE: A

10. 11月 2003, 00:12:01
ChessCarpenter 
件名: Re: Vote on 2003 World Championship
I think that it's fair to everyone that the tournament be started over in 2004! I had 6 wins and 1 game to be decided, so I think I would be affected more than anyone since I had already made it to the 2nd round!!

So my VOTE=A

9. 11月 2003, 23:03:11
rod03801 
I'm not in that tourney (as I STINK at any form of chess), but I agree, that all prize tournaments should definitely be started over. Seems only fair. As far as regular tournaments? That should be at the discretion (ugh, I'm not sure I can spell today) of the creator..

9. 11月 2003, 22:47:25
Grim Reaper 
件名: Vote on 2003 World Championship
My message box was full of mail about people who were winning whose games were lost, etc. So, should we just scrap the whole event and just run one in 2004?

Vote:

A - delete the 2003 Tournament
B - keep it, but start it when we get back to 32 rooks and 48 pawns.

My vote = A

9. 11月 2003, 00:57:54
Backoff 
件名: Re: Gothic World Championship
I was in, butI was getting my butt kicked and I'm not great at GC anyway so I'm not going to rejoin.

9. 11月 2003, 00:40:10
Pioneer54 
件名: On Time
I don't like the long time limits, either. I have stopped entering those events, because some players will go for weeks without moving!! It gets frustrating. I prefer the one and two day limit events.

For those who want more time, as Caissus says, play fewer games; or, take some vacation time until you can get a handle on things.

8. 11月 2003, 23:01:41
Grim Reaper 
件名: Gothic World Championship
There were 32 participants in the Paying section, and 46 in the BrainPawn section.

Once we reach these counts again, I will start the tournament, unless there is a general lack of interest.

8. 11月 2003, 20:22:16
Caissus 
件名: Re: re: First start - first 5
I for myself think that the turn limit with 5-7 days for a move is much to long and I don`t play such tournements.Games with long turn limits will take an endless time until they are ready.
Why don`t you play a little bit fewer games, then you can play games with a shorter timelimit and it would be also good for the capicity problems of the server.
Btw I think as a rook you can define your own tournement.

8. 11月 2003, 19:32:41
Bry 
件名: Re: re: First start - first 5
BBW - I would love to enter your mini tourney's but dont want to commit myself to a short turn limit. I play every day, but like you, I have a lot of games and dont always get chance to move every game every few days. Is there any chance you would consider alonger period - such as minimum 14 days? Perhaps more people would join?

Bry.

8. 11月 2003, 16:28:50
Caissus 
件名: Re: re: First start - first 5
More than 500 games ,o I understand : you are creating your many tournements only for the other users....This is very respectful :)

8. 11月 2003, 16:15:38
coan.net 
件名: re: First start - first 5
I currently have too many games, so I have not been signing up for too many tournaments. I had finaly started to get my "too high" of a game total down before the crash, but now I'm back to where I started from.... :-)

8. 11月 2003, 14:25:12
RAHVIN666 
件名: Unrated SpiderLine4 Tourney
come and join in. Pit your wits against the best in this game. Can you be a giant killer?

SpiderLine4 Unrated Tourney #1

8. 11月 2003, 13:14:31
ChessCarpenter 
件名: The Gothic Realm presents......
"The 1st Joust at the Realm". Come one , Come all!! Show us your mettle in this years jousting contest.

8. 11月 2003, 07:18:47
Caissus 
件名: First start- first 5 ......
Fast start - first 5 to sign up... So many tournements again ? Hey BBW I miss your own sign in ,or don`t you play in your own tournements?

8. 11月 2003, 03:03:46
Skyking 
件名: Re: Scrabble
I just got into Scrabble Bug a few days ago..great game

7. 11月 2003, 08:20:30
puranium 
件名: Re: Scrabble
Scrabble bug is a pretty cool sight for web tv users

7. 11月 2003, 02:49:54
coan.net 
►► B I G · B A D Tournament! ◄◄ all games NOV 10 - This tournament was scheduled to start in September (and did start), but now is back in the list - so it is now scheduled to start on November 10th

Plus my "Fast Start - First 5 to sign up" - tournaments have started back up - I just continued with where I left off in September..... which will be interesting since there had already been some tournaments made, with a winner, and now gone! :-)

6. 11月 2003, 21:34:25
Stevie 
件名: Just for MrLoupcity KM :o)
Here it is :o)

Fast play tourney for Backgammon
Have fun
TNP

6. 11月 2003, 21:27:01
Stevie 
Ill set one up for you then :o) Ill go do it now

6. 11月 2003, 21:20:28
DeaD man WalkiN 
件名: Re:
I'm still new to this site and just don't understand everything that goes on and can be done. tyvm n TNP

6. 11月 2003, 21:17:33
Stevie 
You can do one yourself now you a member if you like Mrloupcity :o)

6. 11月 2003, 21:11:19
DeaD man WalkiN 
件名: Any care to set 1 or 2 day tourney
Hiya e1,
If any1 cares to set 1 or 2 day tourney in BG or BG race I know I would join them. That is as long as people don't join then just make the tourney try and last for over a year.
TYVM for ur time n TNP
:o{P``````

6. 11月 2003, 19:02:36
Nomad 
件名: KM Atomic Blast #1
For the Fans of Atomic Chess here is a tournament for those who enjoy the game. KM Atomic Blast #1

5. 11月 2003, 22:05:22
danoschek 
件名: New Battleboats Prize Tournament - *Swimmers On Your Marks !* ~*~
Framed by the KillingMachine's 'Adopt A Pawn Program' you now
have got the chance to win half a year Knight Level Membership ...

Only stipulation for a signup: today, you must have been on brainking
one full month already - to minimize creation of redundant accounts yano ... 8)

please make sure you have four game-slots free - YAY !! only four
- that's like so consumerfriendly - great !! my modest and humble
consideration is worldfamous indeed ... 0:) ~*~

PS sign here for a frolic splish-splash,
in warm waters - that is if the heat-backup works ... :D

5. 11月 2003, 16:11:21
Grim Reaper 
件名: Just a suggestion to all
This site is going to be very busy for the next couple of weeks I would imagine. Fencer is working hard to restore games that have been lost. The ratings are skewed now, and this has the chance to permanently effect all subsequent games being rated.

Given this is the case, I think we should have a moritorium on the creation of new tournaments for a while. New tournaments means new games which means activity which means the website would be taxed.

How about we let Fencer just work on getting things as close to normal as possible without putting the extra load on the server?

Let 's take a 2 week break from creating new tournaments to let things stabilize a bit.

5. 11月 2003, 15:56:16
bwildman 
件名: Re: IS the K-P WORLD Championship going to be resurrected
That makes sense to me,and like Aragon...I'm scratching all games and starting over.

5. 11月 2003, 14:34:57
Eriisa 
I am not sure of who was lost from QuizMasters Asylum . However, I have re-created the QMA Postcard Tourneys. So if you would like to join, come on over!

Also, I will be starting new Super Fast Tourneys in a few days.

5. 11月 2003, 14:31:46
Grim Reaper 
件名: Re: IS the K-P WORLD Championship going to be resurrected
There are some people who created new accounts that were wiped out and they have not all come back yet.

I think I will scrap the 2003 championship and make a new one in January 2004.

5. 11月 2003, 13:19:59
Badinage 
If like me you have scrapped all games and started from scratch your Main Page will look quite bare LOL

Sign up here for ALL Checker Variations and get some games going again :o)

Oh, and have fun!!

Checkers, Checkers and More Checkers

~~Aragon KM~~

5. 11月 2003, 11:41:01
Badinage 
OK Here goes again.

We had a superb 28 people signed for this the first time around, lets see if we can get the same? Prize Tourney One Year Rook Membership

It would be nice if the winner was already a member that they donate to a pawn somewhere, but this is only a suggestion :O)

Aragon's Checkered Past II

5. 11月 2003, 09:11:56
Damian 
件名: IS the K-P WORLD Championship going to be resurrected
I waited 2 months for that sucker!

4. 11月 2003, 23:33:32
Stevie 
件名: Stevies Anti reversi Prize Tourny 2nd try
Hi all, I had just started a tourny as part of the KM November sponsor a pawn campaign just before the crash. So here we go again, it would be nice to see the same players sign up. There were 20 before, so if we get more this time, the more the merrier :o)
Stevies Anti Reversi Prize Tourny 2nd try
Have fun :o)
Steve

14. 9月 2003, 19:52:15
Eriisa 
LOL, shame on you Backoff! LOL

I disagree with peacepickle, NoMeansNo. That would limit you from meeting new players who could learn from your expertise. I enjoy playing higher rated players so I can learn from them.

14. 9月 2003, 19:38:48
rgbdbg 
件名: I thought this was the Tournaments message board
...not the BK off-topic whiners convention.

NoMeansNo...If you want to limit your exposure to uncompetitive tournament schills, just enter tourneys which require a BKR of 1600 or above. That should filter out most of the problem players.

peace

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