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the greatest chess player who can beat everyone and won most of game and lost some. he could be a world champion . but the perfect chess player who drew most of game and won some games against the world champions and never lost a game. because he is undefeated.
He gave a clear and concise (and logical) explanation, which I seem to have not thanked him for.
Thanks Aganju!
To computeropponen , I would like to point out that the game was indeed recorded as a draw for rating purposes, but my lower rated opponent advanced in the tournament because of the unintuitive way that the rules were set up.
My game I posted about was Logik, but it could just as easily have been chess as your post gives an example of. If you read my last link, the you should know that in the world of "real" chess matches and tournaments, that tie break odds of a similar sort are used when it is not practical to allow a system of tiebreakers based on original time controls that could very well extend for an insane amount of time,. It is true however that these are not based on FIDE ratings....
Aganju: in a draw game, one player may have upper hand position but forced to accept a draw. for example: perpetual check in chess.(it is not allowed in chinese chess) it depends how a draw is defined. if a weak player drew with a strong player, it considered is a win or little win, then the one with upper hand position should be declared a winner. in my opinion a draw is a draw. a win could be awarded 1,or 2 even 3 points, a draw 0.5 or 1 pt .....
computeropponen: What I mean is that getting a draw is a slightly better result for the lower rated person (imagine you play chess with Karpov and manage to get a draw), and therefore the lower rated person gets in the next round. A better alternative would be of course to play another game, but first, that is the choice of the person setting up the tournament (and he chose different), and second, that has other issues, like it could go on forever while all others wait.
Anyway, this is how it is defined, and who doesn't like it has the choices to not enter such a tournament or suck it up and play. And any tournament creator can define that matches are for '1 point', which results in repeat game, instead of choosing '1 game', which forces this kind of decision after a draw.
happyjuggler0: it depends on the way the tournament was setup. If it is for one point, you would have another match. If it was for one game, that game is done and that's it. In this case, a draw results in the lower ranked participant moving into the next round (a draw is considered a 'little win' as he should have lost with the lower ranking)
In this tournament DeaD Man's GaMeS to StarT Sep 1 , my logik game and another logik game are draws ( a common outcome). This is an elimination tournament but we didn't start a second game to decide the bracket, like I thought we would.
Does this happen all the time, or is it different this time?
Argomento: Re: Can somebody explain something to me?
Aganju: This is the only site I know of where all games have to be finished to initiate the next round. Which means an extremely slow player who is already ineligible to advance can hold up the tournament for an indefinite length of time. I generally like the site and the competition, but I find the tournaments to be the weakest feature.
JerNYC: Because the complexity of verifying this fact can be extraordinary high, and even if it is low in many cases, someone has to code it for those cases. The owner of this site has made it very clear, multiple times, that this or any other improvement of BrainKing is not high on his list of life priorities, so no such code is to be expected.
I'm sure this has been discussed before but if somebody could kindly remind me why a second round can't begin for the advancing players when all others have been mathematically eliminated from contention, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Modificato da happyjuggler0 (27. Luglio 2013, 02:40:46)
Are you rated 1600 or lower (or unrated) in knight fight? Sign up for my tournament then First Friday Knight Fights Low Ratings it only needs one more player and it will start.
Aganju: I would imagine it probably will start on the stated date to be fair. I think the last prize backgammon tourenament i created only had 84 players, and this one being red dot, will put a few players off joining too.
furbster: I hope that doesn't happen, because I am offline for two weeks before the 20th, so I would lose on time... I actually rely on it starting only that day.
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