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17. Octobre 2006, 06:59:26
Ray Garrison 
Sujet: ULTIMA is a very good 40 year old chess variant
Ultima is a very good chess variant that was invented by Abbott in the early 1960s. It is has been one of my favourite variants of the past two decades. I would love to see the game at this site, possibly with a tweak or two in the rules. I have some very good suggestions as to minor rule changes, having played hundreds of games of this variety. Is anyone else interested in seeing ULTIMA at brainking.com?

17. Octobre 2006, 07:15:26
Walter Montego 
Sujet: Re: ULTIMA is a very good 40 year old chess variant
Ray Garrison: Yes, I'd like to see Ultima here. The original rules with unlimited movement is how I like to play it. I learned the game with Abbott's updated rules from the late sixties and those of us that played the game threw out the restricted move version and without realizing it re-invented the first version of Ultima. The first version is the one that got popular. It's a fun game, and you have to watch out for the dread Immobilizer. It'd take me a few games to remember the plans and play as it's been many years since I last played Ultima.

17. Octobre 2006, 11:55:43
joshi tm 
Sujet: Re: ULTIMA is a very good 40 year old chess variant
Walter Montego: What is Ultima??

17. Octobre 2006, 12:54:24
Walter Montego 
Sujet: Re: ULTIMA is a very good 40 year old chess variant
joshi tm: It's the name of a game invented in the early sixties. It's played on a regular Chess board. The King is the same and the object is to checkmate him or stalemate him to win the game. The other pieces are different. In regular Chess the pieces all move differently, but capture the same way, displacement. You know, occupying the square of the captured piece. In Ultima, all the pieces move the same way, but capture in different ways. I always used a regular Chess set to play Ultima, though I have thought of some different styled pieces that would be good to play Ultima with. There's seven different pieces as compared to regular Chess' six, so you need to mark one of the pieces. We did this by putting a bottle cap on one of the Rooks. You can also just turn a Rook upside down or put a rubber band around it.

http://www.chessvariants.com/other.dir/ultima.html
http://www.chessvariants.org/other.dir/ultimapieces.html
The first links has the rules and a breif history of the game. The second shows how the pieces move, though it uses the pictorial pieces instead of Chess pieces.

23. Octobre 2006, 11:04:50
lukulus 
Sujet: Re: ULTIMA is a very good 40 year old chess variant
Walter Montego: It looks very confusing

23. Octobre 2006, 12:16:08
Beren the 32nd 
Sujet: Re: ULTIMA is a very good 40 year old chess variant
lukulus: Yes, it is very confusing, but you can get used to it in the end.
Over a year ago I downloaded a trial copy of Zillions, which allowed me to play Ultima and claims to use Abbott's original rules. I had to play and lose several games while learning about tactics, but I did feel I was making some progress.
This site does not allow using a machine to help you with your moves, but training against software is surely allowed isn't it?
Does anyone think it is possible to get beyond simple tactics in Ultima and move on to strategy?

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