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2. Novembre 2004, 23:33:45
mclaudio 
Hi, A win the lasts 2 games with 20 points and 19 points...I haved 1960...and now I only have 1979? why...its a bug ?

31. Octobre 2004, 19:14:01
Rasec 
And about Angola Checkers?
We play with rocks and always that we have a queen, we jump and we moan equal to one rinoceronte!! this a good variant too. What you think Fencer?

30. Octobre 2004, 08:19:06
Nightstorm 
Pawns are now able to posts again. Sorry a few ruin it for the masses.

29. Octobre 2004, 09:07:14
sobek 
Sujet: rules of czech draughts - oficialy in czech republic
Czech draughts is more 200 years old checkers variant. Rules is identicaly as english checkers with this diferent: King (in czech draughts Queen) has long movie, The move capturing the most pieces is not mandatory but in jumb has Queen priority before pieses and Captured pieces remain on the board until the move is completed and cannot jumb 2x cross one piece

29. Octobre 2004, 00:57:11
Nightstorm 
I have removed all off topic posts. PauloGomes and eiaur have been banned from posting until further notice. Pawns posts will be approved for the time being. Now take it back to czech checkers discussions or take it elsewhere.

28. Octobre 2004, 21:38:11
coan.net 
Even though it's not really anyone busness except for Pedro's on who he has on his enemies list, but it look like Paulo has changed his nick sometime in the past - which sometime in the past Pedro had this person on their enemy list.... which means he was on there for a reason - nothing probable has changed.

28. Octobre 2004, 18:50:39
Fencer 
Maybe in the future.

28. Octobre 2004, 18:23:51
Taxinha 
For finish this discussion, there is any possibility to be created a new variant of Checkers? With Portuguese/Spanish rules?

28. Octobre 2004, 18:47:04
Stevie 
The moderator will approve the posts, so legitamate pawns can still post via the moderator.
And the likes of Paulogomes/Eiaur (yes they are one person) will still be able to post as long as its czech checkers related

28. Octobre 2004, 15:44:00
Stevie 
Sujet: FENCER
When I said its unfair,
I was on about Bad Bishops comment about Portuguese. I could see he is someone who has something against them from his first comment.

I think now that youve read all the posts since then...you will see that my hunch was right.
I would not say he is racist towards them, but I would say he is being prejudist.

There is no need to go against them as a whole like on this board, so would like to see most of it removed. So as not to hurt any of my Portuguese friends on here. (even though there are a couple of bad cookies in the bunch...but thats no diferent from all nationalities)

Could it now go back to Czech checkers board rather than a membership payments discussion and who can or cant afford it.


I bet ive shocked you now by being serious for a change ;oÞ

28. Octobre 2004, 13:33:07
Fencer 
BB: I am not much happy about this idea but everything can be considered, of course.

27. Octobre 2004, 15:23:29
pauloaguia 
Fencer, you can find them on the site I posted earlier as well... I think the main difference is that you must make allways the maximum captures as possible (you can't choose between capturing one or two pieces - must go for the two) and you can choose between a pawn and a queen to make the capture (provided they both have the possibility to capture the same maximum number of opponent's pieces).
Oh, and the board is turned (main diagonal from upper left to lower right).

27. Octobre 2004, 15:02:23
Fencer 
What are the portugese/spanish rules exactly?

27. Octobre 2004, 15:01:15
Pedro Martínez 
I've been playing Czech Checkers since I was a kid and the Queen had always precedence as to jumping the opponents pieces. If you have a possibility to jump with your Queen, you have to do so. Period. That's the rule. And that's how it's been played here for decades, at least. If you have problems with this rule, there's one simple solution for you: don't play this variant. Plus it is very sick to demand a draw and put your opponent on your enemies list just because he follows the rules. In case you want to play any game on this site, I recommend to read the rules first.

27. Octobre 2004, 14:26:01
PauloGomes 
why not create a new game with portuguese/spanish rules? If you see, the portuguese Ferjo is the best player in almost any checkers variations and the portuguese fans.
There are only a few differences ... so, why not?

27. Octobre 2004, 14:12:27
Fencer 
There is no bug in the rules. Czech Checkers is just a variant played in our country and the rules details had been consulted with top Czech Checkers players.

27. Octobre 2004, 14:12:09
pauloaguia 
No bug. Just found a site with many checkers variations... In the Czech version, the queen capture precedence is also noted there...
It's just us portuguese that are used to a different type of checkers.

27. Octobre 2004, 14:02:44
Oliveira 
I saw that game and I also believe Paulogomes should win. I believe thats a bug in the rules..but isnt hard to correct it, I guess.

27. Octobre 2004, 11:00:36
PauloGomes 
Then it is thus, the responsible one for the site limited to say that nothing will be moved. Where is the argument and where is the reasons so the rules are thus? Clearly ,nothing can be move at this moment, but would have to be opened a quarrel forum on possible changes. Thanks any way Fencer.

27. Octobre 2004, 08:03:49
Fencer 
Nothing will be changed.

27. Octobre 2004, 00:48:53
Stevie 
I would have prefered you had found it out when playing someone other than me though LOL I was relying on that to get an advantage :o( LOL

26. Octobre 2004, 23:54:15
pauloaguia 
Just found out another thing. There used to be possible to reverse motion to make a capture (for instance, queen in F6 and opponent pawns in G5 and E3, the queen could capture them both in one move by jumping first to H6 and then go back to capture the other pawn).
I only knew this rule here at brainking and it allways caught me by surprise when it happened to me...
Very well, it's not possible anymore :) (I prefer it that way).

26. Octobre 2004, 16:23:15
Taxinha 
PauloGomes should win, he has a better game and that rule, in my opinion, is a bad rule.

26. Octobre 2004, 16:19:12
pauloaguia 
I bet ocnibulva prefers it the way it is ;)

However, I also have some problems with this rule. The rules for the "portuguese checkers" state that a piece must capture as many opponent's pieces as possibleand of the strongest type as possible... but any piece can capture if there is more than one option, as long as the number captured is the same... And it looks like the "English checkers" are different as well... at least trusting on Stevie's opinion...

But then again I never played checkers outside of Portugal... just a question: is this really how checkers are played in Czech Republic or is it a bug introduced when the other one was corrected?

How many national variants are there for this game anyway? Is there a site that lists them all?

26. Octobre 2004, 16:01:26
PauloGomes 
Fencer, if you procede to a statistical movement you will see that every one discord of this rule, so in fact that must be change.

26. Octobre 2004, 15:36:33
Stevie 
Unfortunately, I would agree that you should win that, but with the present rules, you will be losing your queen in a couple of moves and they will gain a queen and you will most likely lose the game

26. Octobre 2004, 15:34:31
Stevie 

26. Octobre 2004, 15:33:31
Stevie 
Thats a five in line game ;o)

26. Octobre 2004, 15:32:16
PauloGomes 
Please, all users have attencion to the game ID 20355 between PauloGomes Vs ocnibulva
I think that is a win for me, but the rules, wrong rules in fact, are: "If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them.However, when a king or queen can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with."
What you think Fencer?

25. Octobre 2004, 10:35:43
Fencer 
Uh-oh :-)

25. Octobre 2004, 06:56:09
Nightstorm 
Sorry BBW. It was posted to the parachute board. Thats the one game that you get the draw after about 4 moves and pretty much made everyone who played it quit. But now all the varients play a lot different and are much better.

25. Octobre 2004, 06:42:05
coan.net 
Steve - I agree 100% - It's a GREAT rule change - I'm actually looking forward to playing some more games now. I'm just somewhat upset me that I did not know about the big rule change.

I wasn't complaining about the rule change - just that I guess I was in the dark about it for so long.... :-(

25. Octobre 2004, 06:27:15
Stevie 
BUt it has made the game closer to real now anyways BBW.
The bug was a known bug by players of the checkers variants. It allowed too many cases of draws etc because of the ways that queens move.
So all thats been done, is that the game now plays nearer to properly. So go back to bed LMAO

25. Octobre 2004, 05:45:28
coan.net 
Yea, posted that a bug was fixed, not that rules where changed.

When I read that, I just figured there was a bug somewhere - not that the rules where actually changed!

But I'm beter now. :-)

25. Octobre 2004, 05:25:49
Nightstorm 
No it was also posted by Fencer on the server news.
1. September 2004, 03:45:31
Besides, lots of bugs was fixed (e.g. multiple jumps in Czech Checkers) and added several improvements.
Reply

24. Octobre 2004, 22:10:52
coan.net 
Well I never liked how the checker rules are setup with "see other game", and then their are other differences which confilict - so a lot of time to find out minor rules, you just have to play around with it.

what gets me is such an important rule change was just posted in here. ugh.

24. Octobre 2004, 22:07:20
Pafl 
BBW: I encountered a similar surprise in One-way checkers. The rules say that in one-way ch., "the other rules are the same as for Czech checkers", while the Czech checkers rules say that "the other rules are the same as for normal checkers" ... so it must have been a change in the rules of Checkers, which I unfortunately do not play :-)

24. Octobre 2004, 21:52:21
coan.net 
Sujet: RULE CHANGED????
I'm going to have to read the board more, a new rule that changes how the game ends that was announced in here on Sept 1st - and I only read about it now!

I think I might have resigned games once the other player had thier piece in the main diagnal because I know it's a losing posisiton - and now I find out the rule had changed???? I could have forced them to jump out of the diagnal!!!

Well i guess it's beter to know now then later!

Maybe when a rule is changed for any game, it should be announced in system news - even it if only effects a few users.

21. Octobre 2004, 16:16:34
Stevie 
Its better than the way it was, it ended in too many draws

20. Octobre 2004, 17:05:47
PauloGomes 
Checkers? the Czech Checkers don´t exist. This game is a variation of Brazilian table with Spanish rules, and is known like Portuguese Damas or Portuguese Checkers. Don't make any sence refer to this game with the international rules of checkers.
Thanks for the opinion.

20. Octobre 2004, 15:42:28
Fencer 
Sujet: Re: Bug in the rules
From Checkers rules:
"If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them. However, when a king or queen (in variants) can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with."

20. Octobre 2004, 13:26:22
PauloGomes 
Sujet: Bug in the rules
By the rules the we have to jump the most pieces, and isn´t importante if it is with the queen or not.
Is this moment we have to jump with the queen.

3. Septembre 2004, 08:09:02
mangue 
wtg fencer!

1. Septembre 2004, 21:18:00
Fencer 
A few hours ago when new games was released.

1. Septembre 2004, 20:25:36
Ferjo 
Sujet: Re:
You mean today as this instance? or you mean today as new games are start?
I wonder what happens to games already started with the "old" rules...
BTW thats a big improvement to the checkers variations games. Many thanks! Good job Fencer!

1. Septembre 2004, 09:54:10
Fencer 
This is going to be changed today! You will be forced to make as many jumps as possible. In all checkers variants with long jumps.

20. Août 2004, 10:26:33
patch 
Sujet: Re:
A helpful piece of advice Nightstorm,thank you.

20. Août 2004, 05:39:31
Nightstorm 
No there not part of it. Which is why no matter how many pieces the other side has if you have a queen in the main diagonal you can force a draw. If they place their piece in the diagonal all you have to do is jump your piece and go to the other corner. With forced jumps you would have to take all the pieces you could get and not be able to just stay in the main diagonal and get the draw. This is what the rules say about queens jumping.

Moreover, a queen does not have to land directly behind the captured piece, it can choose (when jumping) any other empty square in the line but does not have to jump over two or more pieces at once

20. Août 2004, 04:44:41
coan.net 
I thought the "forced jumps" was already part of the rules?

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