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11. Juillet 2009, 23:02:16
Mort 
I'll say goodnight.. no-one wants to answer to "what happens to the millions of little people"!!

11. Juillet 2009, 23:19:48
Vikings 
Sujet: Re:
(V): alright, lets go your way, in the U.S. constitution there is a saying that people have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. there is another quote that says the government will provide for the common defense and promote for the general welfare.
nowhere does it say that there is a guarantee of success.

So that little hot dog maker while you have to applaud his rugged individualism would have made a better choice opening his stand outside someplace like Madison Square garden.
If the government would have been doing it's job, promoting the general welfare, they wouldn't have been siding with unions and instead would have been giving tax breaks to that hot dog stand in hopes that he would eventually invest in a second stand and hire an employee

12. Juillet 2009, 13:55:04
Mort 
Sujet: Re:promote for the general welfare.
Vikings: In 5 words... and you missed it.

I need say no more, your constitution says it.

12. Juillet 2009, 14:07:10
Vikings 
Sujet: Re:promote for the general welfare.
(V): this is why you get a liberal label

where it says promote, you want to provide, and where it says provide, you want to destroy

12. Juillet 2009, 19:48:28
Mort 
Sujet: Re:promote for the general welfare.
Vikings: I extend from centre to which ever feels right by my own mind, by my conscience.

I see no destruction in that. There is more, but that is difficult to explain as it cannot be explained.

12. Juillet 2009, 13:09:49
gogul 
Sujet: Re:
(V):"what happens to the millions of little people"

They'll be big enough to worry about them self and their loved ones. It is now these days where people slip through the crack so badly, while others shamelessly profitate. If you got enough for your self, then why not take responsability for somebody else? Why attempt huge academical constructs like socialism or liberalism when in fact it is so easy? I don't worry about little people, I worry about the label "little people". Great Britain is strong in "producing" little people, a real shame how your government (no matter who governs) have let fall people. Great Britain is very fragile at the moment, go a pay some Liverpool kids train tickets to London, Manchester, and then see the anger.

12. Juillet 2009, 14:01:25
Mort 
Sujet: Re:
gogul: London and Manchester have pockets where violence can be bad, and the figures for violence are going down thanks to concentrated efforts involving communities, the police and the government.

I use "little people" as a term, not a label. It's in reference to those who just work for a living, yet businesses are reliant on for their success.

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