Jumper: As an aside, Ed is an excellent checker player, therefore, his situation is important to the true checker student.

Purple: It is your job to knock the Flamers out. So there is no problem as I see it.

Jumper: I understand your feelings but the checker board needs to be limited to discussion about checkers. I hope Fencer and Ed come to an understanding but that cause would not be furthered here as Ed has too many antagonists and a flame war would develop. Sorry.

Purple: I do not waste time on General Chat, lets talk about it where someone cares about Ed and the games he is involved in.

Socrates:
Pretty run of the mill

Socrates:
14-10
And white (who have first move) going to loose!

Jumper: This should be discussed on General Chat if anywhere.

Say guys lets let bygones be bygones and get back to the fun on this site. Ed is interesting to have around.

Advanced Problem.

11-15 23-19
8-11 22-17
9-13 17-14
10x17 21x14
15-18 19-15
4-8 24-19
6-10 15x6
1x10x17 25-22
18x25 30x21x14
2-6 29-25
13-17 25-21
11-16? - Losing move. White to play to get shot. Position becomes a 4v4 game with white having strong winning position.

Message and post moves for the win if you see it.

www.draughts.dk

New site and new federation of the World Checkers/Draughts Federation (WCDF).

Secret video on the website too. Click on People page and then click on Don Oliphants picture and you will see a short video of him after he won the German Open.

The People page will also have pictures of many other champions :)

The School page has some good stuff on it too.

The co-winners are Ustica and Grim Reaper. Congrats.

John Baker: [Event ""]
[Date ""]
1. 11-15 22-17 2. 8-11 17-14 3. 10x17 21x14 4. 9x18 23x14 5. 15-18 26-23 6. 6-9 24-19 7.
11-16 25-21 8. 16-20 31-26 9. 20-24 27x20 10. 18x27 32x23 11. 9x27 19-15 *

Black is up by one piece and blatantly has stronger position.

In the White Dyke opening, ( 11-15 22-17; 8-11 17-14; 9-18 23-14; 10-17 21-14;) in this position i think the 15-18 attack (instead of the popular 12-16 or 4-8 attack) for black creates a more interesting game. The mistake here for white would be 26-23 (24-19 or 24-20 is the book move). The 15-18 black attack also makes it hard for white to make the "Dyke" ( the Dyke attack in the White Dyke opening would be be white putting pieces on 14, 18 and 23. This attack is obviously trying to weaken Black's double corner.

Socrates: I'm interested in knowing the answer to your problem. I've had my checker board sitting on the floor in my office all set up since you posted it. :-) Could you send me the solution in a message?

Stardust and 3334 are having a game on Goldtoken that began in 2001. They both play here on BK..but that game stands at 3/3 and makes for a remarkable factoid. Does anyone know of a longer internet checker game?

Here's a game I played a few days ago at a club.


1. 11-15 22-17 2. 8-11 17-14 3. 10x17 21x14 4. 9x18 23x14 5. 15-18 26-23
6. 6-9 24-19 7. 11-16 25-21 8. 16-20 31-26 *

The game is the White Dyke opening and I played black side side. Black has a winning move in this position. The problem is maybe above intermediate level but not advanced level.

Socrates: All draws are frustrating.

Purple: Published Play so far. I selected to stay away from the easier old 14th draw and went along with the harder variation.

Socrates: We have a fairly good one going.

John Baker: He can answer in a PM if he wants to but the Checkers DB is not the place for this discussion.

Grim Reaper: You invented Gothic Chess, right? So what happened that caused Fencer to have to get rid of it?

Invite me for games.

1. 11-15 22-18 2. 15x22 25x18 3. 8-11 29-25 4. 10-14 25-22 5. 11-16 24-20
6. 16-19 23x16 7. 14x23 26x19 *

Fun line - Much more stronger for the man-down side in this line rather than black doctor or white doctor's man-down side.

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bwildman: Its good to here from you butch

bwildman: Well, hello there Butch...long time no see. Hope all is well with you, and loved ones.

Purple: Click "Noteable Games" and then choose "First Worlds Championship Match" and you can see 30 animated games.

http://www.wylliedraughts.com/

CurrentRiver: and fair!
hiya Wanda!!
hiya gooner!

gooner: That sounds good to me gooner. Hey let's all be friendly.

gooner: That is what most of us are striving for.

This forum has never been more lively. Just a couple of points as my two cents worth. There seems to be to many people obsessed with what the other person is or isn't using in order to play a good game of draughts, without trying to state the obvious if you feel people are cheating don't play them or get involved which is what I have done. I have played everyone involved in this arguement and personally can't tell a cheater from a proper player, both Ed and Ustica have beaten me but I have also managed draws against them which I know I wouldn't have got against computers as I am not good enough. So lets take people for there word as seeing as this is the internet we don't really have much else to go on. BTW..Ed also offered to play me in Philly last year when I visited which suggests to me he can back up his words. The second point is we should all work together in order to improve our game rather than turn yet another board into a slanging match.

Just my point of view. :o)

Can we keep it friendly please?

and you shed tears on the way there

Socrates: Now you've done it. He'll start stamping his feet in a tantrum. Grim, put us all on ignore please. This forum would be a better place if you did.

It looks as if Ustica has affected you emotionaly on this checkers website Mr. Trice. You're acting like a child - Obviously your statements aren't important to other brainking players. You don't see us agreeing with and encouraging your statements.

Purple: Not so! I'm awful at poker! Than again I'm not so great at checkers either..!!

harley: Ladies are better at poker. LOL

Gentlemans?!

Socrates: Thanks for the echo..this is what I have been trying to say. Maybe not clear enough. Checkers is supposed to be a gentleman's game. I understand the frustration of not winning but that does not justify personal attacks.

Please leave all accusations of cheaters to yourself. It's just online checkers anyways - just for fun.

you know why you can t win?
becose you let your stupid programs move for you.
this is my 2 cents.

Grim Reaper: What seems bizzare to me is that in head to head meetings that someone who has beaten Alex the world's champion and has thousands of dollars worth of program equipment can do no better than draw Ustica..then not only looks for excuses but questions the integrity of other players. You are not discussing checkers but people's character. So please stick to checkers.

John Baker: Also Pinchito is under no obligation to explain any moves he makes or doesn't make. I don't even know if he speaks English. He beat me..no big deal..but he lost to Ruffian. Who the heck is Ruffian? Again, completed game analysis is welcome..you can even say someone made a dumb move as long as no one implies that the person is dumb or that they are being dishonest. This is not rocket science. For all the "genius" claimed by some people the stark fact remains..they can't beat Ustica.

Grim Reaper: I think you expect too much out of players. I've played pinchitos a few times and he's good, but he's not a master. I don't recognize the position you reference as a winning one and I don't expect he would have either. I saw a couple moves where I would have done something different, but I still haven't seen the game get thrown away. Maybe you're way too advanced for us Grim. They should make a special forum just for you, so you can have an outlet for your accusations.
Oh, and by the way, Ustica is "supposed" to win. lol
John Baker

Then he could always pass it along through a global! :o)

harley: Fencer might have Grim on his block list after too many complaining emails. lol

Grim Reaper: Purple is right, if you have any accusations of cheating its best sent to Fencer rather than put on a public board to blacken the name of a possibly innocent person.

Grim Reaper: You have now smeared two people with unsubstantiated accustations. If you have anything send it to Fencer. If you do not then consider this a final warning.

Grim Reaper: Do we?

Grim Reaper: who?