Artful Dodger: Art.... are you trying to tell me you like government health after all? Have you been in denial????

As for you lies, etc about various parties and their members. No side is clean and due to that. No side can try and claim the moral high ground.

Artful Dodger:  I will admit that Joe Bastardi puts on a compelling show for your friends Bill O'Reilly & Glenn Beck.  But, he is a weatherman, not a scientist.  He is also on the dole of big oil which could be suspicious. In addition, he predicts the weather with an air of complete certainty.  Nobody can be that certain about the weather.  I agree that no science can be absolute, & no one can say explicitely when the world will end by global warming.  But, the vast majority of scientist agree that there is a man made component to global warming.  Based upon this evidence, I side on the need for gov't regulation to stem this trend.  It may happen anyway, but I think we can do things to delay it.

Research shows that polar bear figures made in the 70's were an estimate and still are as counting them is hard. There are 19 sub species listed over various areas of the Artic circle of which only 1 seems to be on the increase. Much of any inrease will be due to the fact we've stopped hunting them to extinction.

No-one can give an accurate figure on actual numbers.

Tuesday: Today, there are aprox 25,000 Poler bears where as in the 1970's there were only about 5,000. and they can swim for miles, so these images are just another part of the global warming hoax

I can feel love in the air

(V): I also noticed how you steered away from social network systems

Pedro Martínez: agreed, especially when it comes to federal judges

Vikings: Let me add that the justice system is at the very bottom of the list of the ineffective U.S. “government-run” systems.

(V): well, lets answer these, shall we
The FBI, do you remember a thing called 9-11, the FBI and other law agencies refused to share information and I don't think I have to remind you what happened, real efficient
NASA, just this week they have scrapped the moon missions, but they are not scrapping the money that has been appropriated for it, now the head of NASA is in bed with the global warming bunkist.
police, well that is a local issue not a federal issue
taxes, funny how you seem to forget that many of the administration have evaded paying their taxes including the secretary of the Treasury, oh yea , have you ever tried reading a tax code

I am still waiting for a legitimate answer

Vikings: The FBI have pretty good record, NASA went to the moon. Your police works, taxes seem to be collected.

.. depends on what you classify as efficient. With respect in employment about 95% is efficient.

How are your bank's bonuses this year?

Artful Dodger:   You state unequivically that "One fact is that there has not been any warming since 1998."  Your so big on everyone who disagrees with you backing up their assertions.  Where did you get that one from?

(V): Name one American government system other than the military that is run efficiently

Artful Dodger: I can back up from your posts that you hark on about government fraud than any other type, anyone can see that!! ;)

I can back up from your posts that you think a government based health system is akin to having your feet licked by sheep (an old toture system) .. yet I can also say that a government based system is more accountable to joe public than your current health companies are. Which is something you need in the USA.

I can also say that a recent case of a paramedic denying to resusitate (sp) a man in the UK because he was by opinion... thought to be too fat is a crime. In the USA I've heard people denied treatment over stupid reasons such as "you didn't tick a box".

I know our NHS is not perfect, but as always the option to have private healthcare from national companies is available to those who wish to pay for it. As I said national.. no county to county rubbish... state to state to those in the USA.

Greed is a human thing, one of the seven deadly sins ain't it ;)

to be balanced....

Artful Dodger: I'm sorry Art, but I like to balanced. The attitude you give off when sniping at Obama and anything not Republican or American Conservative is that everyone else has horns and your 'guys' have halo's and are at the right hand of the I AM.

That Obama and liberal minded people invented fraud....

.... Very old British records of army spending show kings in the past concerned over how each penny is spent, long before socialism (apart from some talk by some guy called Jesus and others of his ilk) was ever invented as an economic concept.

I guess the merchants back then liked profit!!

Artful Dodger: Sorry to inform you, but teleprompters have been around for some time... they are not new news. I would have thought you'd heard of them, but I guess sometimes we can miss the introduction of new tech.. and the after effects in oops tv clips!! ;)

Artful Dodger: "figures"?

I think you need to take a chill pill bud, nobody is here in the hopes of measuring up to your opinions,at least not me

Artful Dodger: I'm a sniper? because I don't post here daily? I state my opinions on topics of interest, that's good enough for me.I wasn't aware you were the judge of what qualifies,amp it down a bit

Ferris Bueller: She has ideas! Most UK people thought it was scary that she might get to be President of the USA.. in the same league as Nick Griffin becoming PM!! ;)

Ferris Bueller: Thing is... we have a Conservative party and they are all for our NHS, the current leader of the party praises what the NHS did for him and his family.

This right wing attitude of "SoCiAliSm is bad and anti American" is nuts. Using it to justify allowing harm, fraud and a crazy system with more knots in it than a 1000 foot long rope ladder is not democratic.

Artful Dodger: My point was that there are those in business and in government who can and do rip joe public off. You hark on about government like no other organisation apart from government has corruption or abuse joe public.

I've seen government, business and charities who have been caught red handed with their hands in the coffers.

You point out that your current medical system is not right.. well then, it is the private businesses at the moment who are ripping the whole of the USA off. To say "we cannot use a government run system because it is socialist" is at best a loose use of the word socialist and IMHO a very strained stereotype of "better dead than red" old cold war rubbish.

Artful Dodger: you make it personal,there's no need, it kills a good discussion

Artful Dodger:   You state, "the global warming scenario is hype and is not supported fully by the science. "  That's what the tobacco industry sd. about smoking going back to the 40s & 50s.  They had "scientist" on their payroll to back up their false claims also.  The big oil cos. have their "scientist" to deny there is any such thing as man-made global warming.

Really? the Onion? why not National Lampoon or mad magazine?

Artful Dodger: So you're saying you like to dish it out but not take it?

Ferris Bueller: The Michael Moore movie being endorsed by the Huffington Post right above it says it all