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12. ноември 2005, 06:19:45
nosovs 
Относно: Russian language book

11. ноември 2005, 16:15:36
ughaibu 
The Leggett book has some mistakes according to George Hodges. Tony Hoskins' book is the best in english.

11. ноември 2005, 14:56:57
Fencer 
Относно: Re:
tedbarber: I've bought this book and it seems to be a good resource for beginners. Moreover, it contains a paper board and pieces.

11. ноември 2005, 03:52:48
DragonKing 
Относно: Re: Shogi sets and books
flummoxed: Have you tried Amazon.com for shogi books? At least two good books for anyone new to shogi.

10. ноември 2005, 21:09:55
GreyUsagi 
Относно: Re: Shogi sets and books
tedbarber: Here are a couple of suppliers in the USA:
http://www.hirohurl.net/shogi.html
http://ishigames.com/shogi.htm

10. ноември 2005, 18:41:24
tedbarber 
Does anyone know of any books on this game;or how to get a board and pieces;not a computer version. I detest computer chess programs of any kind;since I think a person should rely on his own skill and not outside help when playing a game. Using outside help in a game is cheating once a game commences;and I hate anyone who cheats at anything. I never will;it is dishonest and dishonorable.

10. ноември 2005, 07:27:58
nosovs 
Относно: Re: Russian
Fencer: I guess, Russian can use English version, Thanks.

10. ноември 2005, 01:44:38
takodori 
Относно: Re: 2nd game of Ryuou-sen(Nov 7-8)
DragonKing: Sorry. One correction. I think YuryShpilev's b) is wrong.
It shoud no be so easy. After N-5c+, Gx4c +Nx4c R*8b P*3b Rx3b G*5a Kx5a +Nx3b S*1b Rx2b+ Bx2b S*6c B*5b R*8a B-6a Rx8b+ N*7b +Rx7c then White could not recover the hopeless situation.

10. ноември 2005, 00:44:18
takodori 
Относно: Re: 2nd game of Ryuou-sen(Nov 7-8)
DragonKing: Watanabe won it with 71 moves. The variation after the final move is as YuryShpilev points out. N-5c+ would be a magical sacrifice.
I've dealt with it in my blog at http://shogi-excitinggame.blogspot.com/

9. ноември 2005, 23:11:16
Sergey1 
Относно: Re: 2nd game of Ryuou-sen(Nov 7-8)
DragonKing: Here black (in Japanese style) made "mating net" around white's king, and they king are out of threat. Now black have mate threat: N-5c= mate. If white do move G-4b, then N-5c+ a)Gx5c Rx2b+ Bx2b S*4b mate! b)Gx4c Rx2b+ Bx2b S*5b mate!
You must enoght pieces in hand for mate!

9. ноември 2005, 21:38:40
Fencer 
Относно: Russian
Sorry for the off topic. I've noticed there are many Russian players contributing to this board. Is anybody interested in moderating the Russian mutation of BrainKing.com board?

9. ноември 2005, 17:52:46
DragonKing 
Относно: Re: 2nd game of Ryuou-sen(Nov 7-8)
takodori: Did Watanabe win that game? In 72 moves? I don't read Japanese, so it is sometimes difficult to tell from a final position who has won. It would seem that Kimura had an advantage because of all his pieces in hand. This is one of the aspects of shogi that I am still learning. I always think the player with more peices in hand should win- perhaps I am too dependent on western chess- where a player in that position would most likely win.

7. ноември 2005, 02:08:10
takodori 
Относно: 2nd game of Ryuou-sen(Nov 7-8)
You can watch and replay the game at
http://www.iijnet.or.jp/shogi/kifu/index.html
Title holder Ryuou Watanabe made a first move. For those who can read Japanese,
Ryuou-sen Blog is available at
http://www.shogi-live.com/blog02/

6. ноември 2005, 21:48:56
Sergey1 
Относно: Re: Number of players here in Brainking.com
takodori: Thank you for information. Here not sorting on players or column name, and it's info very hard for analyze, but it better then nothing.

6. ноември 2005, 17:17:41
takodori 
Относно: Re: Number of players here in Brainking.com
YuryShpilev: Well. Though it is time-consuming, there is a way like this.

Click "Raintings" on the main page and then click "Japanese Chess" to go to
the Rating players list. And then click "show all started games" on that page.
Then you can see 9 page of the list of started games with players' nicknames.
Compare them with the provisional BKR players. The difference should be the
unrated players that you would like to know.

5. ноември 2005, 09:04:09
Sergey1 
Относно: Re: Number of players here in Brainking.com
takodori: How I can know who started shogi games, but not stand in BKR? They will grow this list in future.

5. ноември 2005, 00:32:30
takodori 
Относно: Number of players here in Brainking.com
The number of Japanese chess players who obtained provisional BKR exceeds 100 today, as you see in http://brainking.com/en/Ratings?ap=1

29. октомври 2005, 20:57:52
andreas 
Относно: Re: Pieceset
Fencer: Good point. May be also the Lance should be displayed up-side-down. All other pieces can be displayed in normal way.

29. октомври 2005, 20:49:34
Fencer 
Относно: Re: Pieceset
andreas: The upside down direction of the upper pieces is necessary at least for golden and silver generals in order to symbolize their movement abilities.

29. октомври 2005, 20:47:03
andreas 
Относно: Re: Pieceset
Caissus: Almost perfect. Would be even better if white pentagon around the pieces is removed and one of sides colored in white. Also it is better to draw upper pieces normal, not up-side-down.

29. октомври 2005, 20:45:56
Fencer 
Относно: Re: Pieceset
Caissus: Thanks. I don't think Kurnik would like it if I steal their graphics. But it's good inspiration to create a similar one.

29. октомври 2005, 20:44:48
Caissus 
Относно: Re: Pieceset

29. октомври 2005, 20:40:52
Fencer 
Относно: Re: Pieceset
Caissus: I like it. What can I find it? I see it's a Java applet.

29. октомври 2005, 10:48:55
Caissus 
Относно: Pieceset
How do you find this western adapted pieceset: http://de.geocities.com/caissus2000/Shogi.JPG ?

28. октомври 2005, 02:19:06
Shumby 
Относно: Quick Hi
I didn't realize there was a Shogi discussion board here. I'm pretty new to the game but I've gotten a decent understanding of it. I've played a bunch of you and look forward to playing the rest.

Basically, just wanted to say hi! Happy Ooshoo Hunting

27. октомври 2005, 21:02:59
DragonKing 
Относно: Re: Mino Pawn
ughaibu: Perhaps it is similiar to the vanguard pawn, but in a mino castle somehow? Thank you!

27. октомври 2005, 20:13:33
ughaibu 
DragonKing: go to this site http://gamelab.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/SHOGI/kifumain.html and look at game 2 of the 50th Osho match. Tanigawa (at the top) plays a mino. On the other hand, I dont know what "mino pawn" is meant to mean.

25. октомври 2005, 20:28:12
Sergey1 
Относно: Re: 1st game of 18th Ryuoh sen(Oct 25 & 26)
takodori: Another place with game translation: http://www.shogi.bz/kifu/index.html

25. октомври 2005, 09:55:43
jolat 
Относно: New Shogi fast Tournament
Hello,

I created a new Shogi Tournament for all players.
This tournament is addressed to the players who can play at least a
move per day.

Limit of registration: October 28

If you are interested, register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11934&tri=64782&trnst=0


Greetings

jolat

25. октомври 2005, 02:49:40
takodori 
Относно: 1st game of 18th Ryuoh sen(Oct 25 & 26)
You can watch and replay the game at;
http://202.215.250.252/~ryuoh/banmen.html

23. октомври 2005, 10:25:15
nosovs 
Относно: First Day results
1 Kagawa 3 5
2 Guangming 3 4
3 Oka 3 3
4 Jensson 2 6
5 Zapara 2 6
6 Mirnik 2 4
7 Heeffer 2 4
8 Shevchuk 2 4
9 Kaufman 2 3
10 Korchitskij 2 3
11 Cheymol 1 7
12 Hartman 1 5
13 Tamashiro 1 5
14 Christoffersen 1 5
15 Rojmahamangkol 1 4
16 van Oosten 1 4
17 Baggio 1 4
18 Hosking 0 6
19 Pfaffel 0 5
20 Wald 0 3

22. октомври 2005, 12:56:23
Sergey1 
Относно: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum)
nosovs: Please, to ring until 22-00 JST (Japan standard time) (-5h in Russia, -7h in Europe)

22. октомври 2005, 12:49:34
Sergey1 
Относно: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum)
nosovs: If you want you can ring to hotel "Tokyo East-21", where live participants and where hold ISF. Here phone number 8-10-813-5683-5683 and please connect to participant (Victor live in room 605). I busy now, and I will ring tomorrow.

22. октомври 2005, 11:22:32
nosovs 
Относно: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum)
Can you inform Results of first day ?
Thank you.

22. октомври 2005, 09:16:23
DragonKing 
Относно: Mino pawn and mino castle
Would someone tell me what a "mino" pawn and "mino" castle are? I"m going over a kifu and the notes tell me to watch the attack on the mino pawn. I have also seen references to a mino castle elsewhere. Thank you.

19. октомври 2005, 06:37:03
takodori 
Относно: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum) held in Tokyo
It will be held on Octorber 22 and 23 in Tokyo. Japan Shogi Association has invited 36 players from 19 countries for the event. The following URL is the list of the participants.
http://www.shogi.or.jp/event/kokusai-sankasya.html
An International tournament and a team tournament with commentary by professional players using a big board and pieces for the audiences are scheduled. In addition, There will be charity educational simultaneous play by professional players, an international shogi conference, the 3rd king league of computer shogi, exhibition of variety of shogi/chess in the world, cultural exchange event of tea ceremony and so forth.
On Octorber 21, a dinner party for the participants is scheduled and the tournament table will be decided by lottery during the party.

18. октомври 2005, 13:14:33
nosovs 
Относно: Shogi Festival in Tokyo
Променен от nosovs (18. октомври 2005, 13:14:56)
Can anybody inform us fresh news from Tokyo Shogi Festival ?

18. октомври 2005, 04:15:33
DragonKing 
Относно: Re: Time limits
playBunny: So each time either SG1 Fan or I move, then the clock starts again? The time I see is the total time remaining for the next move to be made? Regardless of whose move it is? I think I understand now. THANK YOU. That explanation was specific and understanable.

18. октомври 2005, 00:44:34
DragonKing 
Относно: Re: Time limits
DragonKing: I have checked my profile and I see i have 5 vacation days. But, just to clarify- if time runs out- say over night or something like that and It's my turn to move- then afetr all my vacation days are up- I would lose? It seems that to won- all someone has to do is wait till the very last minute and then move- regardless what the situation is on the board. I realize that over the board games always have time limits- but this seems very different to me. My objection is that at least one of my opponents hasn't moved in several days.

18. октомври 2005, 00:17:02
DragonKing 
Относно: Re: Time limits
playBunny: Thank you for the reply- HOWEVER I don't think I understnad. You said if I don't make A MOVE- you mean to start the game? All these games are in progress- does that mean they must be over by the deadline? I'm trying to undertsand what I have to do not to lose these games. I am not a member. Do I have vacation days? This is very confusing.

18. октомври 2005, 00:09:33
Fwiffo 
Относно: Time limits
Being a pawn doesn't matter for time limits. When you run out of time you lose that game.

18. октомври 2005, 00:04:03
DragonKing 
Относно: Time limits
I ahve a question about the time limits in the beginner's tournament. Most of my games say 2 days 23 hours right now. What happens when that time is up? I am not a paid member here. Does that make a difference?

16. октомври 2005, 01:56:14
takodori 
Относно: Soccer and Shogi
For those who can read German, the following article by Dr. René Gralla in CHESSBASE might be interesting.
http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten.asp?newsid=4731

10. октомври 2005, 18:09:45
Fwiffo 
or on one of the "-"'s in the tournament table behind your name

10. октомври 2005, 18:06:43
Fwiffo 
don't click on the opponents name but on 'japanese chess' (the one you would like to play) on the main page

10. октомври 2005, 17:58:52
DragonKing 
Относно: Beginners Tournament
I am in this tournament- But I dont undertsand who am I playing in this first round? My main page tells me I am in like 15 games at once? How do I bring up these games to make my moves? When I click on my opponets name- I dont get the game board- instaed I get the chart with the names of all the first and second round people who are in the tournament. How do I start to play?

9. октомври 2005, 20:00:34
jolat 
Относно: Shogi's Tournament for advanced players
I created a new Shogi's Tournament for advanced players (1600).
Limit of registration: October 17
If you are interested, register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11654&trnst=0&tp=69

8. октомври 2005, 19:26:21
jolat 
Относно: Re: Bonanza games database.
DragonKing:
Bien, très heureux d'avoir pu t'aider :-)

8. октомври 2005, 19:22:19
DragonKing 
Относно: Re: Bonanza games database.
jolat: Ah Oui! Je comprends maintenant! Merci beaucuop! (Et, je crois que tu parle anglais bien!)

8. октомври 2005, 19:15:48
jolat 
Относно: Re: Bonanza games database.
If I understood you well, you think that this file "book.bin" is a database of games which you can view with CSA shogi. If it is that, it does not have anything of it. "Book.bin" is a file which makes it possible the engine "Bonanza" to play the openings correctly.
When you play against SCA, it will answer instantaneously if the moves that you make in the opening are indexed in this file "book.bin".
I hope that I could render comprehensible me (excuse my approximate English: I am French:-)).

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