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27. Mai 2012, 05:43:48
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: because only those obeying the law would bother getting a license.
May 26, 2012
Teenagers killed as gunman goes on rampage in Finland

So much for gun control

REUTERS - A gunman opened fire from a rooftop in a Finnish town centre in the early hours of Saturday, killing two people and wounding several others, police said.

An 18-year-old man wearing camouflage clothing was arrested after the shooting in Hyvinkaa, a small town 56 km (34 miles) north of the capital Helsinki.

The motive for the shooting was unclear. It followed a series of shooting sprees in Finland in recent years and came less than a year after anti-immigrant gunman Anders Behring Breivik killed 77 people in a rampage in neighbouring Norway.

About their new and improved gun control laws:

Finland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world and a series of mass shootings prompted the government to toughen its gun laws last June. The suspect in Saturday’s case did not have a license, police said.

Enough said.

29. Mai 2012, 17:25:59
Übergeek 바둑이 
Subiectul: Re: because only those obeying the law would bother getting a license.
Artful Dodger:

> a series of mass shootings prompted the government to toughen its gun laws last June

Let's see. After decades of no gun control, Finland now introduces them. I suppose that in less than one year the law is suppossed to work and be accepted by everybody, even psychopaths. Is it that the law is wrong, or that an act by a psychopath can be used to justify saying that the law is wrong?

30. Mai 2012, 02:25:47
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re: because only those obeying the law would bother getting a license.
Übergeek 바둑이: In the US, where guns aren't restricted, especially in places where you can wear your gun all the time, crime is way down.

Where gun control is greater, there is greater crime.

My math tells me that gun control works against the honest person and in favor of the crook. I think that's what at play here.

30. Mai 2012, 13:56:58
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: Let's see. After decades of no gun control, Finland now introduces them. I suppose that in less than one year the law is suppossed to work and be accepted by everybody, even psychopaths.
Übergeek 바둑이: Very unlikely. In a country where it is the norm to be able to have a gun, things will not change over night.

"or that an act by a psychopath can be used to justify saying that the law is wrong?"

The likes of the NRA might say so. But more guns in the civilian population will mean more gun related crimes compared to a country with strict guns laws.

Except (eg the UK) in the country as this clip shows!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ka5pedLmLs

30. Mai 2012, 16:08:21
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re: Let's see. After decades of no gun control, Finland now introduces them. I suppose that in less than one year the law is suppossed to work and be accepted by everybody, even psychopaths.
(V): and the silence is broken!!! Welcome back Jules! I knew ya'd make it!

30. Mai 2012, 17:13:56
Übergeek 바둑이 
Subiectul: Re: Let's see. After decades of no gun control, Finland now introduces them. I suppose that in less than one year the law is suppossed to work and be accepted by everybody, even psychopaths.
(V):

Sorry, I suppose it is difficult to put a sarcastic tone on a post! I meant my last post to be sarcastic.

30. Mai 2012, 18:02:35
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: Let's see. After decades of no gun control, Finland now introduces them. I suppose that in less than one year the law is suppossed to work and be accepted by everybody, even psychopaths.
Übergeek 바둑이: I know you were , hence the clip in the end from Hot fuzz

.. When you see people in the USA shooting others over facebook, you get to wonder how sane the laws are that allow nutters to freely buy guns.

But I guess many Americans would object to having their sanity tested!!

31. Mai 2012, 02:20:50
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re: Let's see. After decades of no gun control, Finland now introduces them. I suppose that in less than one year the law is suppossed to work and be accepted by everybody, even psychopaths.
(V): Guns aren't the problem. Stupid people are. And you can't have an effective gun control in the US. A little thing called the Constitution prevents the nuts from taking away our gun rights. And as the DEA has found out, taking away people's firearms is a costly affair. Americans aren't going to sit by and watch the government take away their guns. It will never happen.

31. Mai 2012, 02:25:35
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re: Let's see. After decades of no gun control, Finland now introduces them. I suppose that in less than one year the law is suppossed to work and be accepted by everybody, even psychopaths.
Übergeek 바둑이: If you took away the guns in the us only two groups would have guns: The criminals and the government. I'd trust criminals with guns before I'd trust the government.

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