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22. March 2009, 06:15:22
The Usurper 
Subject: Re: The significance of this quote is that it reveals the elite conspiracy.
Artful Dodger: I see your point. It is possible that Kissinger is simply arguing that Americans are vulnerable to an elite conspiracy, without himself being a member of it. In order to make the further point, that there IS a conspiracy, and that he is a part of it, context is required.

The fact that he would SAY this, is significant, considering who Kissinger is, and his political power. He is speaking to the Bilderberg group, a secretive organization of world leaders. I say secretive because they meet privately & do not reveal their agenda publicly. To understand how he is speaking to co-conspirators, therefore, would require some knowledge of the Bilderberg group, for which there are some good books out there.

Everything requires context. And every argument assumes some level of common understanding as a foundation. It is possible that someone has never heard of either Kissinger or the Bilderberg group...in which case the quote, while its point about the possibility of using fear to drive Americans into world government may be clear, nevertheless may not drive home the point that such a scenario is a real plan in the making.

22. March 2009, 06:27:21
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: The significance of this quote is that it reveals the elite conspiracy.
The Usurper:As I understand it, the Bilderberg group started in the early 50's and did so to counter the anti-American sentiment in Europe.  As for secretive, that's true.  They do meet in secret.  But could it be that they don't want what they do say to be misconstrued (as the press does so well) and they don't want things taken out of context.  Also, since what is said in there could have international political ramifications, it's not surprising that they want to protect the need to speak freely without the fear that some reporter with a desire to break a big story will take their words and create an international crisis.

I'm just saying that there are several reasonable explanations for most situations.  Conspiracy is just one.  You may be right in your analysis.  But it's not an obvious conclusion. 

22. March 2009, 07:01:38
The Usurper 
Subject: Re: The significance of this quote is that it reveals the elite conspiracy.
Artful Dodger: It's true, many explanations are possible, and there is no getting around deeper research to weigh the relative merits & demerits of any possibility.

An interesting point about the Bilderberg meetings is that major news media are always present & well represented. Not only so, but the owners of the various news media also attend. So while it may be true that there is a fear of "common reporters" (and this I believe is true), it also seems likely that the leaders of the "Fourth Estate" are bedfellows with leaders of the other three Estates...not a very healthy arrangement, I would think. And it tends to support the conspiracy model.

22. March 2009, 15:24:57
Czuch 
Subject: Re: The significance of this quote is that it reveals the elite conspiracy.
The Usurper: while its point about the possibility of using fear to drive Americans into world government may be clear,



I still havent heard the why part yet? What would be the great conquest of making the US part of a new world order? How do I benefit by joining a secret conspiracy to dupe the american public into opting into some new world government? That doesnt make any sense

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