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5. March 2009, 02:54:28
ScarletRose 
Subject: Re:
Tuesday: Wow.. Did they extend unemployment?

5. March 2009, 03:03:23
Pedro Martínez 
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Tuesday: I don't quite get the point of this stimulation. Will the extra 25 buckaroos (I love this word, thank you ) stimulate him to exercise more effort in finding a job?

5. March 2009, 03:10:08
ScarletRose 
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Pedro Martínez: there is over 5 million out of work in the US right now due to the stupid decisions last year which ended up putting us into a recession.. it's not that they aren't trying to find jobs.. companies are folding left and right.

5. March 2009, 03:14:01
Pedro Martínez 
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ScarletRose: OK, that I get, but how is the extra money a "stimulus"? A stimulus stimulates you to do something. This seems to me to be nothing more than just a generous gift from the government.

5. March 2009, 03:18:08
Pedro Martínez 
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Tuesday: Oh, I see. Not a good idea, if you asked me. :)

5. March 2009, 03:26:35
Pedro Martínez 
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Tuesday: I think it's just wasted money. Too few and too scattered to be able to help the plants reopen or to help corporations in general, yet too much if you count it altogether. I can imagine a number of better ways how to stimulate the economy.

Bernice: I can agree with that. Wrong people, wrong reasons.

5. March 2009, 03:49:19
ScarletRose 
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Pedro Martínez:  I have to agree.. I think they would have been better off giving each person so much to where they could use it to pay off bills and make purchases they would like to buy.. it then goes back into the companies.. and leads to job security.. I heard the amount of money they spent could have given each family a pretty good lump.. enough to really stimulate things..

5. March 2009, 03:22:13
Bernice 
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Pedro Martínez: if it was in the form of food stamps (excluding cigarettes/alcohol), clothes stamps, bus fares stamps, education (as in fees,books etc) stamps, it would be a good thing.

But as in Australia, they are giving it to the wrong people, for the wrong reasons.

5. March 2009, 03:30:08
Pedro Martínez 
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Tuesday: I'm not blaming your son for taking the money, I'm sure he's a good person (he's your son after all ), I'm blaming the government for giving it to him.

5. March 2009, 03:14:39
The Usurper 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
Pedro Martínez: It's not a good word. And you're welcome. lol (j/k)

5. March 2009, 03:17:29
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
The Usurper: It's an awesome word. I had quite a blast when I first read it. :))

5. March 2009, 03:24:08
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
Pedro Martínez: Some of the stimulus money went for tattoo removal.

5. March 2009, 03:27:04
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
Artful Dodger: Now it's you who's jesting, no doubt.

5. March 2009, 03:31:09
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
Pedro Martínez: No, I'm not jesting at all.

Obama is getting a new fleet of new helicopters. Hmmmm, 11.2 Billion dollars. Yeah, like one isn't enough.

But the topper is when he said he "is proud that we passed a recovery plan that is free of earmarks."

Really? He's either lying or he's stupid. Neither choice is good.

There's language in this "recovery package" that requires the Transportation Security Administration to buy 100,000 uniforms from U.S. apparel makers (more that three million of tax dollars). That's an earmark.

Three billion in extra transit money. Another earmark.

Fifty million for habitat restoration in the San Francisco Bay area. Another earmark.

1.2 million for products from these companies: General Electric, L-3 Communications and Reveal Imaging Technologies. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal, which is a GE company.)

More Earmarks.

There's the 189 million provision for Filipino World War II vets, most of which don't live in the US. Another earmark.

This is supposed to be emergency legislation.


And then there's the 2 billion for battery research? Emergency legislation? Maybe Obama is just redefining earmarks. Kinda like Clinton did with "is."

There 800 million for carbon capture projects.

And yes, it's true. There are 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? Seriously.

5. March 2009, 03:50:10
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
Tuesday: I'm afraid he's not kidding us indeed, read this.

"$1.7 million for "Swine Odor and Manure Management Research" ...

5. March 2009, 04:02:02
The Usurper 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
Artful Dodger: "Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal, which is a GE company."

Further proof that our media, while "private," is not neutral. A half-dozen groups own ALL the major media in America. It is not possible, with such a consolidation of interests, that we can get the full picture by watching/reading it.

5. March 2009, 04:17:02
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: buckaroos
The Usurper: WEll, duh. MSNBC is the Obama network.

5. March 2009, 03:08:15
ScarletRose 
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Tuesday: That sounds great.. I hope there is perhaps a stimulus plan for those with college school loans.. haha

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