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28. January 2009, 02:49:47
Papa Zoom 
Modified by Papa Zoom (28. January 2009, 02:50:24)
Nancy Pelosi wants to decrease the surplus population and claims that a stimulus package will help do just that.

huh?

STEPHANOPOULOS: Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus? PELOSI: Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children's health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those - one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government. STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that? PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFU_jE9WasM

28. January 2009, 13:24:32
Czuch 
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Artful Dodger: Dont you see.... more abortions equals fewer babies equals fewer costs.... and I said liberals werent logical??????

28. January 2009, 17:58:33
Papa Zoom 
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Czuch:   Scary isn't it?  And all this while Pelosi and her fellow democrats accepted a raise. 

28. January 2009, 21:23:53
Czuch 
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Artful Dodger:

The House Democrats' bill includes $335 million for sexually transmitted disease education and prevention programs at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention


335 million dollars in an economic stimulus package for STD education??????

I hope there is a logical liberal around to explain this one to me????

28. January 2009, 23:15:54
Papa Zoom 
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Czuch:   They think that they are doing a good thing by all the "big brother" is taking care of you nonsense.  Spend, create huge committes that will dole out the money (and waste most of it) and then they can say what a good job they are doing for the people. 


Bush lost sight of the deeper conservative principles when he endorced the bail out packages.  The economy doens't need help.  It needs the incompetent legislators to keep out of it.  Where were those idiots (including Bush) when the banks and investment firms were stealing the people blind?   And now the stupid banks are forclosing on people.  Duh.  Ummmmm how about giving people who can't afford high interest loans lower interest loans so they can actually pay the banks back?  Banks still make money and people keep their homes.


Now the damage is done.  They want to fix the mess we're in (the US is broke) and so what do they do?  They give money to the crooks with little or no accountability (and the crooks are asking for more) but they are still kicking people out of their homes, paying their stock holders, and one financial institution tried to purchase a new private jet for 15 million.  Yeah, they got severl billion in bailout money.  They cancelled the purchase.


Hopefully the democrats won't be able to ruin the country entirely until we can get some competent republicans into office.   The dems are currently taking us further down the road to sure disaster.


And while I'm at it, let's have the new president appoint someone in charge of the economy fix that can't even figure out turbo tax!  


28. January 2009, 23:29:27
Bernice 
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Artful Dodger: pheewwwww ....do you feel better now :)

29. January 2009, 02:27:02
Papa Zoom 
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Bernice:That was just for starters. The main course is on the way!  lol

29. January 2009, 01:07:44
Czuch 
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Artful Dodger:

Whats really funny / strange, is that typically I would expect democrats / liberals to want to hand out money to the poor helpless people personally..... IE give money to people to help them pay their mortgage or their heat or something like that... like you said, people could keep their homes and the banks could get paid back, and home prices would not fall so much due to the huge glut in the market because so many homes were foreclosed on!

Also, they spent years telling us how trickle down economics doesnt work, and years complaining about the big bad oil subsidies, and now look at them go!!!!

Pouring all this money into the big bad banks and hope it trickles down to the little guy.... have they really lost their minds this time??? Or have they been lost forever anyway??? ( I vote for the second one)

Well one good thing has come from this election.... at least we are finally finished listening ad nausea about Bush... I just wish they would stick around longer to get a taste of their own medicine.... but they arent interested in defending their chosen one.... because they just dont know how to do anything but complain!

29. January 2009, 02:46:30
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re:Also, they spent years telling us how trickle down economics doesnt work, and years complaining about the big bad oil subsidies, and now look at them go!!!!
Czuch:  Isn't that the truth.  I guess trickle down works when we have a democratic pres 

Obama is spending a ton of money and betting his presidency on the success of his plan.  He's promising 400 million new jobs.  It's not going to happen.  And when it fails, the conservatives will take back congress and in 4 years the white house. 

I hope by then the republicans have learned to stick to their roots and stop acting like liberals.  Otherwise we're in for a world of hurt as a country.

Dick Morris suggests that nothing happens this year and that in fact, things will get worse.  09 will be a disaster (some say the economy will improve by the summer) but Morris says no.

In 2010 the depression ends and then hyper inflation takes over.  Then an induced recession occurs to decrease the inflation rate.  Not good and if this scenario occurs, Obama is finished.  So are the dems. 

As for the Bush haters, they are still there.  Karl Rove has been subpoenaed by congress.  He said he won't show.  The subpoena is thanks to Rep. John Conyers, chair of the the House Judiciary Committee.  He's a Bush hater and Hates Rove even more. Conyers, like many on the left, suffers from BDS and it's likely to continue at least for the immediate furture. 

For those that don't know, BDS is short for "Bush Derangement Syndrome."  It's a political term coined by the American conservative political columnist, and psychiatrist, Charles Krauthammer.  Krauthammer defined Bush Derangement Syndrome as "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush".

  It explains a lot too! 

29. January 2009, 03:03:42
Czuch 
Subject: Re:Also, they spent years telling us how trickle down economics doesnt work, and years complaining about the big bad oil subsidies, and now look at them go!!!!
Artful Dodger:

As for the Bush haters, they are still there.


Im talking about the ones on here, like BBW anastasia and the like...

29. January 2009, 03:10:57
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re:Also, they spent years telling us how trickle down economics doesnt work, and years complaining about the big bad oil subsidies, and now look at them go!!!!
Czuch: Oh, that group of Bush haters.    Interestingly, I posted a comment from the "president" about Iraq and the necessity of putting Saddam out of business.  No one questioned the truth of what the president had said.  He hadn't lied (that Saddam was a threat, attacked his neighbors, broke UN agreements over and over, and was a threat to regional peace and to the US's interests)...and yet somehow he "fooled" the democrats in congress.  Fooled them how? 

The good news is that if in two years Obama doesn't turn things around, he's done. 





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