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18. August 2012, 10:47:52
Mort 
Subject: America is no longer... white.. sounds like the old days before Columbus
When George W. Bush’s narrowly won reelection in 2004, not a single American state had a law requiring voters to present photographic identification at the polls. Today about 10 states, with 134 electoral votes among them, have enacted such laws—all at the prompting of Republicans.

Republicans are not responding to a newly discovered crisis in voter impersonation at the polls, but to a partisan crisis brought on by their party’s declining base of white Protestant voters. If the GOP can’t grow its own voter base, it can at least hope to shrink the Democrats’ base.

Photo-identification laws are targeted heavily at Democratic minority voters, who are significantly less likely than whites to possess the required identifications. A reduction in the votes of racial minorities relative to the votes of reliably Republican white Protestants benefits the GOP. In an unguarded moment, Pennsylvania’s state House majority leader, Republican Mike Turzai, said that his state’s newly enacted photo-identification law “is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania.” In a response to a lawsuit challenging the law, the state’s attorneys admitted that they were “not aware of any incidents of in-person voter fraud.” Impartial studies have reached similar conclusions about voter impersonation across the nation.

In contrast to voter fraud, the decline of the Republican’s base vote is real and pervasive. America is no longer a white Protestant nation. Until the late-20th century, white Protestants had composed the majority of Americans and the overwhelmingly majority of voters. That white Protestant majority has since disappeared. Fewer than 40 percent of all Americans today are white and Protestant, though the group, which tends to be older and more likely to vote, is usually overrepresented at the polls.

The percentage of white Protestants among voters will continue to slide as America becomes increasingly non-white. The big states of Texas and California are already majority non-white and all of America is likely to follow suit before mid-century according to US Census projections. Hispanics, the nation’s largest minority group, are increasingly gaining citizenship and voting. African American voter turnout now closely approximates that of whites.

The dependence of the Republican Party on white Protestant voters is deeply rooted in the party’s history. The modern Republican Party took shape in the 1920s out of a widespread concern that secular, pluralistic, and cosmopolitan forces threatened America’s national identity as a white Protestant nation. At the core of conservative politics both in the 1920s and today is the ideal of America as a unified nation that upholds traditional white Protestant values.

White Protestant voters overwhelmingly backed Republican candidates in the early 20th century, with the exception of the South, which was solidly opposed to the party of Lincoln until later in the 20th century. Racial and religious divisions in voting remain pervasive today, far overshadowing divisions of gender or class. And white Protestants are still overwhelmingly Republican. In 2004, according to exit polls, George W. Bush won two thirds of the white Protestant vote, but only about 11 percent of the African-American vote, 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, and 25 percent of the Jewish vote. In 2008, John McCain won 65 percent of the white Protestant vote, but only about 5 percent of the African-American vote, 31 percent of the Hispanic vote, and 21 percent of the Jewish vote. Republican support among evangelical, white Protestants has been especially impressive, with Bush winning 79 percent and McCain 73 percent.

18. August 2012, 16:46:07
rod03801 
Subject: Re: America is no longer... white.. sounds like the old days before Columbus
(V):
Blah blah blah. Nothing to do with race. Nothing to do with party.
I don't care if you are black, white, yellow, purple, Democrat, Republican,Communist,Socialist.

Get a stupid ID and vote. It's only logical.

All the rest of the distractions are just that, distractions. Nothing to do with race. Nothing to do with partisanship.

Voting is important. It's important that only people who can legally vote should vote.

It's really quite simple.

The people who say the poor minorities aren't bright enough to follow the law and have an ID sound like the racists to me.

18. August 2012, 16:51:20
Mort 
Subject: Re: America is no longer... white.. sounds like the old days before Columbus
rod03801: I never said it was racist.. it's about loss of power by a certain group of people.

Like those in Northern Ireland who were against the Peace talks. They were white fighting white. Peace meant less power.

It is THAT simple, so why complicate it!!

18. August 2012, 17:16:28
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: America is no longer... white.. sounds like the old days before Columbus
rod03801: It's funny that we have "phony, non-existent "voter fraud"" and in the same breath voter fraud from the GOP. Is it non-existent or does it happen?

It's clear from evidence that the Democrats in Minnesota "found" the needed votes for Al Frankin to defeat Norm Coleman. Coleman was up by nearly a thousand votes but the Democrats kept finding uncounted votes until
Frankin was up by over 300. Then they were satisfied.

Acorn has officials in jail for "phony, non-existent voter fraud." Maybe those officials are in a phony, non-existent jail.

You are right that it's a simple concept. Get an ID, vote. Prove you are a legal voter. The GOP is purging dead people, felons, illegal aliens, and other non eligible persons from voter rolls. The Dems wants those people left alone.

The liberals are fighting hard to keep voter ID OUT of elections. It gets in the way of their stealing elections. Now they'll have to create fake IDs. They will do it too and some will get caught and some will go to jail.

But some will still say it's non-existent. (interesting how, according to the Democrats, only poor blacks can't figure out how to get a voter ID - if a conservative held that position the libs would cry racist!)

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