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27. January 2012, 19:33:47
Übergeek 바둑이 
Subject: SOPA and PIPA
I have looked at the news and debates on these laws. It is funny that the American and other governments are so interested in stopping illegally copied and counterfeit goods (mostly music and movies). At the same time they will do nothing to stop truly destructive things.

It is illegal to copy a movie, but it is legal to make a mysogynistic pornographic film. Half of the Internet is full of pornography that objectifies and denigrates women, men and even children. I wonder if they will shut down or fine advertisers of those sites.

It is illegal to copy a video game, but it is legal to make a video game where people get blown up. I wonder if they will make it illegal to feed to children and youth graphic, interactive violence.

As usual, it is all about money. The only reason why they care about this law is to protect the revenues of billionaires. Here are the Hollywood and media billionaires. Not content with having made billions, they want to continue to make billions. I don't blame artists for wanting to protect their interests and money. If they pass SOPA and PIPA, will they also pass laws that ban violence and pornography in the Internet? After all, many of the users of the Internet are children and youth.

At this point the defenders of "free speech" will stand up on their soap box and say that pornography and violence are a necessary evil to protect free speech. I wonder if free speech is on the mind of the mysogynists that make pornography or the sociopaths that make violence a game. They will say it is up to the parents to stop children from watching pornography and violence. Should it be up to the parents to stop kids from copying movies and games?

Here is the ridiculous thing:
It is illegal to copy a movie of a woman being fisted or being penetrated by three men at the same time, but it is perfectly legal to make that movie.
It is illegal to copy a game where people get beheaded or blown up, but it is legal to make such a game.

27. January 2012, 19:45:14
Jack 
Subject: Re: SOPA and PIPA
Übergeek 바둑이: SOPA and PIPA are dead in America for now but I see Britain has just wrote up legislation that is just as bad.
I am sure our corporate interests will come up with legislation similar to SOPA and PIPA and just try to color it over. Your right about violence and pornography on the internet and even TV is being allowed to use disgusting language now.

27. January 2012, 21:43:23
Mort 
Subject: Re: SOPA and PIPA
Jack: It's EU legislation regarding intellectual property. It's not law yet and may never be. most attempts by the industry to directly interfere with internet have failed and found to be illegal.

27. January 2012, 23:01:32
Jack 
Subject: Re: SOPA and PIPA
(V): They should support copyright laws that cover all countries.

I can understand companies wanting to protect their creations but I don't believe taking over the internet is the way to support existing copyright laws.

Übergeek has some very good comments on this issue.

28. January 2012, 17:59:35
Mort 
Subject: Re: but it is legal to make a mysogynistic pornographic film. Half of the Internet is full of pornography that objectifies and denigrates women, men and even children.
Übergeek 바둑이: Not children, that level even though it does happen is illegal and one actual problem that gets the various law bodies around the world to work as a team.

The considerable problem with porn is the same as boxing. Drive it underground by making it illegal will just make things worse. At least now the 'actors' are protected and they have to have regular check ups for SDI's.

"As usual, it is all about money."

Mostly.

"will they also pass laws that ban violence and pornography in the Internet?"

Pointless to try. There are vast areas of the net that are impossible to regulate.

"It is illegal to copy a game where people get beheaded or blown up, but it is legal to make such a game."

But then isn't it upto the parents to make the young aware of the difference between fiction and reality? Most people are aware of this difference.

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