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18. June 2010, 07:10:29
The Col 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Artful Dodger: Poor Obama, he can't win from losing.I am pretty confident that if he had not expressed the very real frustration of the nation by saying he wanted to find out "who's ass to kick" he would be denounced by the right for being soft on big oil.

18. June 2010, 07:16:53
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Jim Dandy: People want solutions not speeches. Where was he at the beginning of this oil spill? He was not dealing with it. His administration was basically ignoring it. It took Obama 2 months to approve Jindal's requests. That's playing politics.

Obama is the first President to use foul language when addressing the public. Not very Presidential.

And why are many on the left talking about buyers remorse? Clearly, Obama's honeymoon is over. More and more people are disappointed with his policies and lack of leadership.

Wait until they see their taxes go up. Another promise broken. We will all see that. No, Obama didn't "raise" our taxes. He authored policies that will increase taxes through new regulations/laws and changes.

When the Bush tax cuts expire, we will all see an increase. Obama could extend the cuts but he won't. As we head into November we will see more and more voting against the Democrats. Thanks to Obama.

18. June 2010, 07:33:30
The Col 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Modified by The Col (18. June 2010, 07:34:25)
Artful Dodger: 3/4 of your comments have nothing to do with the oil spill, that's playing politics.What's with that Barton guy calling the 20 billion a shakedown slush fund?
People need concrete action just to put food on the table, he did achieve that for the time being.I think pretty much everybody agreed that BP were the best people to handle the situation early on, hindsight is 20/20

18. June 2010, 07:40:12
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Jim Dandy: nonsense. It ALL has to do with the oil spill. Either directly or indirectly.

My last response was to your general comments post. Since you didn't address the oil spill, I simply responded to your general comments.

When Rachel maddox criticizes obama, you know he's in trouble.

18. June 2010, 07:48:02
The Col 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Artful Dodger: I'm not impressed by the Obama era to this point,he has not fulfilled his promises in many areas.Basically has turned off his base,and been met by the cold shoulder from the right, not a recipe for a 2nd term

18. June 2010, 08:33:24
Bernice 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Jim Dandy: I think most of the "rest of the world" has the same thoughts. He isn't looked upon favourably here either...some politicians are right up his.....but the general population hasnt much faith in most of his"promises"

18. June 2010, 19:08:08
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Jim Dandy: I think you're spot on. I'm guessing the cold shoulder has several factors. For one, I don't really think Obama tried very hard to include the ideas of the Right in his policies. I think more he tried to convince them to accept his ideas and support them. The other factor is the arrogance of some on the left (Pelosi for one) and how they simply excluded the Right from participating in meaningful ways. Then there is always the loyalty factor. Loyalty to the party line (not necessarily a bad thing but certainly doesn't promote bipartisanship). When you hold the majority, you don't always have to give and take and in this case, the Dems held the majority and the Right was powerless. There goes our checks and balances.

18. June 2010, 13:30:49
Mort 
Subject: Re: How is he playing politics?
Artful Dodger: No-one thought it was as bad as this... first the oil leak was little, the more and then the current leak size .. ... ...

I don't think it is at all possible for Obama to ignore that a well was leaking. It was in the news enough.

The rest of your post is just spin.

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