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9. December 2009, 07:17:40
Übergeek 바둑이 
Subject: Re:
Artful Dodger:

> His number keep going down, down, down.

As I recall, George W. Bush had the same problem, and so did Bill Clinton before him, and George H.W. Bush before Clinton. History repeats itself!

> It will take a few years but the Democratic reign in the US is dismantling fast.

It will take about as long as the Republican reign of the Bush administration took to dismantle. That is about 8 years!

9. December 2009, 10:28:29
Mort 
Subject: Re: ou can only hide behind myth for so long and then reality sets in.
Artful Dodger: Like Saddam and his WMD's.... a year before the invasion it was already decided there was to be a war.

In retrospect.. it sounds like the right wing conservative element in the USA had lost the plot. As some of those in the UK inquiry have said.. It'd been easy and much better to just let Saddam die of old age and just contain him.

If the Conservative element in the USA want to have the next president.. better they learn to tell the truth

9. December 2009, 17:01:13
Übergeek 바둑이 
Subject: Re: ou can only hide behind myth for so long and then reality sets in.
(V):

> If the Conservative element in the USA want to have the next president.. better they learn to tell the truth

People have a very short memory. If previous wrongdoings had any bearing, Ronald Regan would not have been elected on account of Richard's Nixon's Watergate scandal. Then George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush would not have been elected on account of not only Nixon's mistakes but also the Iran-Contra Scandal. Bill Clinton would never have been re-elected on account of his womanizing. Arnold Schwarzenegger would never have been elected governor on account of having sexually harassed several women. Politics is a dirty business. The winners are not the best people, but rather those who lie the best with a straight face and those who can get the most money from the rich and powerful corporate elites.

9. December 2009, 20:51:30
Mort 
Subject: Re: ou can only hide behind myth for so long and then reality sets in.
Übergeek 바둑이: Politicians like to be squeaky clean (or claim to be) while the other side is dirty so and so's .... they are human. One French minister once commentated that in France they would be sacked for not having a mistress at the time of a big scandal in the UK.

or ... "I smoked weed but didn't inhale" .... but the person is alcohol dependent...

.. "It was within the rules" ... but not moral though...


.... I'd rather have a genuine politician then a squeaky clean one any day of the week.

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