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28. April 2010, 17:27:22

Nothingness

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Modified by Nothingness (28. April 2010, 17:29:03)

hmmm i can see that neither of you have played much espionage. with a 1 day bonus the game will take appx 3 years to complete. here is a devils advocate way of looking at it. 7 days to start. 1 day bonus and lets say the bank is 10 days. first day i move 10x. i now have a limit of 10 days. i dont make another move for 9 days. then move 10x again. then take another 9 days off my bank drops to 1 day then gets built back up again. with another 10x per day move. im already over a month and the game has just started,. most espionage games among great players is anywhere from 100-200 moves. with a 200 move game at 30 moves per month. 7 months for the game at that is being generous. x that by 3 rounds of a tourney and we are looking at 2 years to complete a tourney, IF your lucky. your bank i feel is the key and keeping the bank at 3 days may speed things up. keep the 24 hour per-move bonus, just lower the over game time. and add weekends.

28. April 2010, 18:38:52

happy hermit

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Nothingness:

Agreed. You are not going to complete an espionage tournament in any reasonable time period, but it's the game type not the time control that will be the culprit.

Open games are usually under 80 moves. On IYT I had one game go 100 moves. Here, in part due to the subtle rule differences I have had a couple of games go over 100 moves, but that is still the exception.

In Small Fast / Open Small the games are generally done in under 60 moves.

28. April 2010, 18:45:38

Justaminute

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Nothingness: The IYT time limit of 28 hours a move seems to work pretty well. I played a Jarmo tournament here with Fisher which added 8 hours per move which also worked well although when my opponent got down to 12 hours I did try using my time advasntage to move last thing at night hoping he had gone to bed. Not terrible sporting but as we are playing in an espionage tournament that has reached move 20 after 3 months I didn't have much sypmpathy!

28. April 2010, 19:02:43

Pedro Martínez

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Nothingness: Take a 3-day bank and do the same math you did with the 10-day bank. I guarantee you will arrive at the same results. It's actually the bonus what the key is. The bonus tells you the average speed with which you need to move without timing out. With both 3-day and 10-day bank, you need to move, on average, 1 move per day (if the bonus is 1 day), so the total length of the game will stay the same.