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    23. June 2009, 02:24:23
    Czuch 
    Seriously... we have brains, that can be used for memberships etc, why not poker chips as well? (at least after you have figured out how to keep multis from ruining things?)

    23. June 2009, 02:36:18
    Pedro Martínez 
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    Czuch: And why not "selling" BKR for memberships?

    23. June 2009, 02:45:30
    Czuch 
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    Pedro Martínez: because there is no possible way, really?

    Plus BKR is really very different from poker chips.

    It doesnt matter when I play poker against you if I have 10 million chips and you only have 1000, if I win or you win, we both win the same amount.But BKR is different, I may only lose 3 BKR if I lose to you, and stand to make 100 if i win, so there is a big difference right there.

    23. June 2009, 03:09:52
    Pedro Martínez 
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    Czuch: I don't see any difference at all. The chip count, as well as the BKR, determines the ranking of players. Buying a considerable amount of chips is, in my opinion, equal to buying a considerable amount of BKR points. If people are allowed to trade poker chips or BKR, the rankings will become useless. When I play the top player of a particular game, I expect that the player has proven himself to have the best results in terms of playing that game, not in trading chips or BKR for whatever else.

    23. June 2009, 03:20:36
    Czuch 
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    Pedro Martínez: Well, I see your point, but I dont necessarily consider the amount of chips a person has, as an indicator of how good a poker player they are?

    Also, like I said before, there is no "ranking" in poker, except for maybe in tournaments, but in normal play, unlike BKR, the amount of chips I win is not dependent, in part, on how good my opponent is, we all start equal every new hand.

    But, now that I think of it, if you do want to have the amount of chips a person has actually represent some sort of evidence of how good a poker player they are, then maybe Fencer needs to show us an indication of how many hands we have played to help us out?

    We both may have 30k in chips, but If I have done it in 30 hands and you have done it it 300 hands and someone else has done it in 3000 hands, it all matters, no?

    23. June 2009, 06:55:28
    Universal Eyes 
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    Czuch: It would be like a baseball avg,your not looking at how many poker hands,it's how many poker hands and people playing in the poker hands,you don't win as often at a table with more people.

    23. June 2009, 03:22:44
    rod03801 
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    Pedro Martínez: Good point.

    What's to stop people from doing what has been talked about already on this board? (giving chips if someone gives someone else a membership)

    I imagine most people, if they know it is not considered correct behavior, wouldn't do it. But we all know there are people who would find a way to do it anyways.

    23. June 2009, 03:23:47
    Czuch 
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    Pedro Martínez: You see?

    I can play in "rookie games" and make just as much in chips as i can in a game against a good player....but with BKR, that is not true, I cannot play all poor players all day and make the same BKR progress per win as I can with a quality player.

    23. June 2009, 06:58:40
    Universal Eyes 
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    Modified by Universal Eyes (23. June 2009, 07:04:58)
    Czuch: rookie games it would still be harder to win with 10 players than with 4 but on the other hand it's winning more chips per win.

    23. June 2009, 03:29:23
    Czuch 
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    Pedro Martínez: Thinking about it more.. I can see too that people could trade bkr for membership too.... if you dont care, you could let me win games of chess to help my bkr, if i buy you a membership.. ... so there is a similarity there...... but again too, your poker winnings on any particular hand is not dependent on how good or bad your m opponent is, unlike BKR

    23. June 2009, 04:31:37
    rod03801 
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    Czuch: I think one think you may not be considering is that even if someone "gives" you BKR, unless you keep "buying" it, it is eventually, over time, going to show your true BKR.

    23. June 2009, 03:00:12
    Bernice 
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    Czuch: remember how you got brains.....by spending money, by donating to the site. Poker chips cost nothing moneywise so are worth nothing moneywise.

    23. June 2009, 03:04:30
    Czuch 
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    Bernice: Yes, but you can also win brains as well, and then turn them in for money(paid memberships)... and I guess too, you could make a brains tournament with two people, both multi niks, and then lose on purpose, but not quite the same as poker , where everyone is given 1000 chips every day, or whatever it is.


    Maybe poker needs to be for paying members only then?

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