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12. November 2009, 22:10:06
Übergeek 바둑이 
Subject: Re:
Artful Dodger:

>  Examples

The NSA and CIA have declassified many of their documents.  George Washington University has been sifting through the over 1 million declassified documents and slowly releasing salient examples of CIA and military involvement around the world.  In many of these we see gross examples of human rights violations, assasinations, torture, disappearenaces, etc.  You can find the documents here.  If you click on "documents" or do a search then you can find many examples of different kinds.  Many of the documents are "excised" meaning that many parts are blacked out because the American government wanted to protect individuals mentioned in the files (so much for accountability).

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/

Some specific examples.

Guatemalan intelligence officers (in the CIA payroll) organized themselves to kidnap, torture, and interrogate suspected communists.  The document also describes the assasination of two individuals:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB32/06-01.htm

The Guatemalan military would abduct, torture and kill civilians (among them communists, disidents, anyone opposing the regime).  This is from an NSA document produced in 1994.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB32/42-01.htm

The following is a document (in Spanish unfortunately) compiled by a death squad.  It lists people "processed" (meaning disappeared) by the squad, as well as lists of communists, communist sympathizers, and anyone suspected of opposing capitalism.  An interesting portion is page 15, which lists newspapers and the journalists that lead them.  Pages 16 to 19 list homes that were targetted and the people captured in each home.  From pages 20 to 74 there are photographs and information of people captured, tortured interrogated and/or killed by the death squad.  The death squad reported to the CIA, and it is why the document exists.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB15/dossier-color.pdf

Here is an entire section from Mexico on the killing and disappearance of both civilians and suspected militants.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB180/

I can keep looking for files all day long, but I will post a last one.  This one signed by John Negroponte, a former ambassador to Honduras, the UN and Iraq, as well as  Deputy Secretary of State, and Director of National Intelligence.  He discusses in how to best support the Honduran military.  In case anyone doubts direct involvement by the American government, it doesn't get clearer than this.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB151/part2/00000001.pdf

In fairness, it must be understood that it was not only the US that was involved, but many other countires.  The extermination of communism involved the participation of most western powers, and the governments they controlled politically and economically.  Very often we see the CIA helping governments to stop communism, and then the CIA would find itself unable to manage the situation and the rising levels of killing and violence.  By the time they were thorugh, Guatemala had 300,000 dead and 90,00 disappeared.  El Salvador had about 400,00 dead.  Honduras had about 300,000 dead.  Nicaragua, 300,000.  Etc. etc.  It went on all over Latin America.  Capitalism exterminated its millions of its dissidents, along with civilians, insurgents, moderates, radicals, etc.

13. November 2009, 06:03:49
Übergeek 바둑이 
Subject: Re: Examples
Artful Dodger:

Of course, it is better to turn a blind eye to reality.  Can you prove the opposite, that I am wrong?  Or better, why would the CIA do what it did?  Perhaps I can make a better case by joining the actions of the CIA to the United Fruit Company (now called Chiquita), or INCO and their role in the rise of fascism in Central America.  I know very well that I am preaching to the deaf, but then, nobody is required to read what I post.  If Capitalism sent millions ot their death, it is justified in the name of freedom, just as Communists justified their killing in the name of the working class.

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