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14. December 2007, 22:00:13
coan.net 
Subject: Make guess on first move
I was playing a few games recently, and I noticed someone who is each of our games would make a guess the very first move, then after losing 3 points for bad guess - would take their first shot there.

At first I thought maybe they did not know what they were doing - then after thinking about it (and noticing they have a higher rating then me so they must be doing something right), I started to think if this was a good strategy.

Of course if you have very first shot and shot a frog, all of a sudden you are 10 points behind (since you lose 5, and your opponent gains 5) - this way, they are only down 3 points to start.

Taking a look at about 25 of my past games, the closest score I could find was 5 points - with a few at 8 points, and most more then 10 points separate the 2 sides.

So obviously 3 points lose at the start would not do much damage - but I was wondering what others thought? The risk of hitting a frog on the first shot is slim: 5/139th chance. So what do others think of this strategy?

14. December 2007, 22:59:20
rod03801 
Subject: Re: Make guess on first move
coan.net: Personally, I don't hit a frog on my first shot very often. (Rarely, in fact). So, I wouldn't think it was worth it to start off 3 points behind. I suppose if there were more frogs on the board, it might be more worth it, but with the current configuration, I don't think it would help often enough to bother.

14. December 2007, 23:45:39
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: Make guess on first move
coan.net: Interesting. Two more points: if you go first, and you decide to shoot, you don't have a 'safe' shot, there's always the chance to hit something. Making your first action a guess doesn't give your opponent a field he can shoot knowing there's no frog there.

But here's another thing. Say starting with a guess would be a good thing. Then, wouldn't it be good for the player going second to start with a guess as well? But if both players start with a guess, followed by a shot on their guess, what about their third moves? Shouldn't that be a guess too?

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