Jim Dandy: It's impossible to engage in the world of ideas without engaging in some sort of conflict from time to time. Take religion out of it and you would still have conflicts.

Pedro Martínez: in what way?

Artful Dodger: non evangelical religions generally avoid world conflict.Judaism of course is an exception due to the issues it has faced since the inception of Israel, but it's not due to any crusade to convert

Artful Dodger: Oh I don't expect to find any proofs.
:)

edit: The above sentence is probably gramatically incorrect, but I hope my intentions are clear enough. lol

Pedro Martínez: what kinds of proof would you expect to find?

Tuesday: I paid Fencer

Jim Dandy: then likely religion is not the root of the problem but something else is.

Jim Dandy: Yup, we're on the same page there.

Pedro Martínez: call it a placebo, but I do agree that for some it really doesn't matter if "God" exists.The comfort the belief provides is beneficial for them to get through the day

Tuesday: Why? There is no reason why…

Jim Dandy: I agree. It has enormous advantages, and as I said, I would love to believe. From the point of view of an individual, religious beliefs are very helpful.

Pedro Martínez: Being delusional probably also helps one get through a hostage crisis, I suppose it has its advantages in getting through life


"ignorance is bliss"

Tuesday: You know, I would love to believe in God. In my opinion, believers have, in general, a better life than non-believers. But I just can't lie to myself when I know that people created their Gods for the very purpose to make their lives happier. I can't give you the proof of non-existence, obviously, but the proof of existence should be much simpler and easier to do, right? The fact that nobody has come up with such proof makes my assumptions more probable.

Tuesday: please, that's so old school

Tuesday: I used to think I was the messiah, who knows

Tuesday: And there is no God.

Tuesday: At the same time, however, God is not non-religious either.

Artful Dodger: of course not

Tuesday: Is God religious?

Jim Dandy: You cannot. Christ even said his words would cause conflict.

Jim Dandy: So are political ideologies. Do you think people need religion to find ways to disagree?

Tuesday: No they can't and until one of the 'Gods" holds a press confrence on CNN (or FOX for AD) the status quo remans, as does the conflict

Tuesday: Exactly.. Just as Allah or G_d have nothing to do with it.

How can you have all these different religions, all teaching they are the real truth, and not have it cause conflict amongst the population of the world? I mean honestly

Jim Dandy: Aye.. and his words were used by the Nazi's to justify their pogrom

(V): Martin Luther was most responsible for that

Tuesday: The starters of the Protestant faith wanted the genocide of all Jews.

Artful Dodger: Are you sure about that?

Tuesday: And what of those who've used Judas as an excuse to condemn and kill Jews?

CNN Rips 'Incoherent' Obama: Even George W. Bush Had Clearer Message
By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:56 ET
When the media outlet disaffectionately called the "Clinton News Network" starts ridiculing you to such an extent that you are depicted as a worse communicator than George W. Bush, you know your popularity as a Democrat President is in trouble.

Yet that's what happened Tuesday when CNN published a piece prominently displayed on the front page of its website with the surprising headline:

Critics Say Obama's Message Becoming 'Incoherent'

For the remaining fans of our 44th President, the article that followed wasn't any better:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/17/obama.mosque.message/index.html

The Press Conference That Never Happened
by Bob Parks
If a dozen or so black liberals held a press conference, screaming about Tea Party racism for a couple hours, the media would be showing clips for days.
Have a group of black conservatives hold a press conference against liberal racebaiters falsely accusing the Tea Party and you have a media laughing afterward with not a clip to be seen anywhere (except online).

Ferris Bueller: I've never utilized the Bible in that way and don't know of any who do. Don't over generalize. As for "left behind," that's a school of thought in eschatology. Even so, what about it?

Ferris Bueller: examples please

Tuesday: Then why do so many espoused Christians utilize the so-called "Old Testament" when it is convenient to condemn those who are different?  Many of them also use Revelations and John in the "New Testament" to promote intolerance of practitioners of other religions.

What Happened to the 400,000 Jobs Pelosi Promised after Healthcare ‘Reform’ Passed?
by SusanAnne Hiller
Back in February 2010, Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi promised the American people that approximately 400,000 jobs would be created due to the passage of the healthcare bill.

Remember Pelosi promised this:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi at the health summit: “It’s about jobs. In it’s life, it [the health bill] will create 4 million jobs — 400,000 jobs almost immediately.”

Well, it’s almost November and the economy still hasn’t gotten any better and we have no evidence of those jobs being created. I can only assume that she didn’t mean this either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaDtkG6afBc&feature=player_embedded

"There will be no earmarks in the bill (healthcare) that passes the house." N Pelosi

She raises her and and "swears" it.

Doesn't this just tick you Dems off to no end?

Tuesday: me too plus a couple of more