BrainKing - Panouri de discuţii (Chess variants (8x8))

This is a win in 3 for white I think. I won't say how though :)

18. August 2004, 09:25:44

we call it Siamese Chess with 2 players

19. August 2004, 02:47:50

WakeUpPeople

Subiectul: some bug

I was browsing some boards and wanted to look at that game, then wanted to look at the opening and I can see only empty board when trying to go backward to plies 33 and prior (whites 17th move). May be it has something to do with the way Fencer stores game data in the database, may be he just allocated too small space for atomic chess games expecting them to be fast. (when I wrote this last ply index was 107)

19. August 2004, 02:49:07

WakeUpPeople

heh, wrong idea, the moves obviously are in database, just game browser somehow cant cope with that, I go get some sleep better :)

19. August 2004, 03:12:17

Actually i think the data does dissappear from the database. Not sure why, but this happens for virtually every game.

19. August 2004, 04:34:05

PowerPygmie

Subiectul: Huh

And all this time, I thought Chess was a Bughouse variation...

19. August 2004, 04:41:45

ughaibu

It's quite different from bughouse as the pieces remain constant unless there are promotions.

30. August 2004, 14:17:38

No castling is allowed in this game. I will fix the rules ASAP.

19. Septembrie 2004, 20:13:40

[Del]

Subiectul: Problem

I have got a small problem.
White: Ke1; Qd2
Black: Kc3
Black to move.
So what do you think? Is it Patt?

19. Septembrie 2004, 21:35:00

Subiectul: Re: Problem

Since the black king can get close to the white king, and just chase him around from then on (preventing the queen from blowing him up because the white king would go in the process)... I think it's a draw.

19. Septembrie 2004, 21:37:28

In this particular position white wins since black cannot move next to the white king on this turn.
e.g.
... Kc4
Qd3 Kc5 etc...

19. Septembrie 2004, 23:10:37

Subiectul: Sorry

... somehow, on the my diagram I had placed the queen at d1 and not d2 as BFG stated. I must agree with grenv then. Sorry for the confusion.

19. Septembrie 2004, 23:21:22

[Del]

Subiectul: addition to Problem

Well, I think a different way. If the black king would beat the white queen, both kings would be removed. So for me it's a special constelation, in which the King could beat a figur. Im not sure if the king isn't allowed to beat a figur, because he would be also removed, or he isn't able to beat.

Are there any official rules of atomic?

19. Septembrie 2004, 23:53:58

official rules? who knows if there are any. What would make them official?

I didn't understand what beating a figur is, but the king cannot capture anything on this site, therefore white wins.

You could create a rule that says if both kings are exploded it's a draw, but that isn't the case here.

20. Septembrie 2004, 00:04:56

[Del]

Subiectul: Re:

Well, both Kings would explode if the black King would capture (sorry, I didn't remember) the white Queen

20. Septembrie 2004, 00:11:01

As I said, on this site that is impossible, KxQ would not be allowed.

The only rule that seems different at other sites is stalemate, which is impossible here. Anyway this wouldn't come under that category.

21. Septembrie 2004, 10:45:18

stalemate is possible, though unlikely. Eg white king on b2, Black king on a2, queen on b1, another queen somewhere. White to move, if white moves to a1 and black moves the other queen to b2, white is stalemated. Black would have to be pretty dense to do that though!

21. Septembrie 2004, 14:58:48

There is no stalemate in Atomic Chess on this site. In your example white would be forced to move into check.

21. Septembrie 2004, 18:21:26

but white can't physically move..! how would that work then? auto pass? :)

21. Septembrie 2004, 18:44:02

oops, sorry. You're right I didn't look carefully enough at your numbers. This should be stalemate, but who knows how it would work.

23. Septembrie 2004, 02:43:11

wanna try in an unrated game? :)

26. Septembrie 2004, 14:14:19

WhisperzQ

White deserves a draw for stupidity on the part of black LOL

26. Septembrie 2004, 23:19:39

Modificat de coan.net (27. Septembrie 2004, 00:33:53)

Quick question - if I DO NOT put the Maharajah piece into check, and they (Maharajah piece) DOES NOT have any valid moves - is it a win for me, or a draw?

*Edited to add "Maharajah piece" next to they

27. Septembrie 2004, 00:25:51

when you mean they: the black or the white?
If the white can't move I think it's stalemate. So a draw.
If the black can't move... can this even happen?

27. Septembrie 2004, 00:37:23

Sorry, thought it was clear. Edited previous message to add "(Maharajah piece)" next to they so hopefully it would be more clear.

27. Septembrie 2004, 02:49:54

Subiectul: Capture question

A pawn can go two spaces diagonally on it's first move.

Can it capture a piece doing this?

For example if white had a piece on E5, could black take a pawn from G7 to capture the piece on E5?

27. Septembrie 2004, 04:31:09

ArnieTxx

Subiectul: Re: Capture question

Pawns in Berolina Chess only capture vertically.
A 2-square diagonal move by one of them the first
time it moves cannot be a capture.

27. Septembrie 2004, 06:29:52

Modificat de Kevin (27. Septembrie 2004, 06:30:07)

sure - black can't move if only two pieces are on the board:

black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move.

27. Septembrie 2004, 06:31:12

It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc."

27. Septembrie 2004, 12:29:34

Chessmaster1000

Subiectul: Re:

Modificat de Chessmaster1000 (27. Septembrie 2004, 12:31:03)

<>It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, >one player is in a stalemate, etc."

OK the game is finished but how??? With what result? Your copied text is incomplete and incapable of explaining the compete rules. You should have added:

The game is finished WITH THE SAME RESULT AS IN CHESS if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc.

27. Septembrie 2004, 19:02:29

Pafl

It is actually a good strategy for white to try and get "into" the black's position, hoping for a stalemate :-)

27. Septembrie 2004, 21:07:23

"black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move."

This isn't stalemate... White just checkmated black by placing the maharajah at that position. So it's not black's turn: a win as already been accomplished.

28. Septembrie 2004, 05:58:29

Whoops - I meant maharajah on B4 :-)

1. Octombrie 2004, 02:04:59

BuilderQ

Subiectul: Amazon is H?

Why, in the notation, is an amazon represented by a letter "H"?

1. Octombrie 2004, 10:40:53

Eeeew, it should be something else. A, maybe?

1. Octombrie 2004, 17:35:56

Bobes

Subiectul: Tournament final

I play final match in the tournament and it's 3 wins match. I started with black ... so this is, teoretically, loss for me. Is there way how to solve this problem?

1. Octombrie 2004, 17:54:08

Win or draw as black? :-)

2. Octombrie 2004, 07:18:06

CardinalFlight

How about Z for amazon?

2. Octombrie 2004, 07:24:53

A is Archbishop in Gothic Chess. I think there should be some distinction between them, considering they move differently...

3. Octombrie 2004, 10:23:20

i like Z too

3. Octombrie 2004, 17:18:25

Do you know what would be a more fun "Maharajah" chess game?

Cylinder Maharajah Chess :-)

4. Octombrie 2004, 12:13:12

Is it better now?

5. Octombrie 2004, 04:34:46

Yes :-)

5. Octombrie 2004, 12:22:01

rabbitoid

Subiectul: loop chess tournament

Any interrest in loop chess? a tournament will start next monday, provided enough people show up... click here

8. Octombrie 2004, 00:56:10

BuilderQ

Maybe Berolina Pawns should not look the same as regular pawns?

8. Octombrie 2004, 08:06:36

Hrqls

Subiectul: pawn promotion

when a pawn reaches the other side of the board .. is it allowed to promote it to a pawn again ?

is this allowed with the last pawn on the board ?
would you lose if you promote your last pawn to a pawn ? (in theory there might be a short period during the promotion in which you have no pawn left ?)

8. Octombrie 2004, 09:52:11

No.

8. Octombrie 2004, 09:53:43

Why not?

8. Octombrie 2004, 10:52:44

Hrqls

ok thanks :)

8. Octombrie 2004, 20:23:34

BuilderQ