c'mon, Fencer, be nice now. everybody else is.

not everyone has encountered your previous explanations, nor will everyone go looking for them on blind faith that they're around here somewhere (you know how many boards there are here, and how many messages are on each one!). as people join BK and see weird BKRs that don't seem to make any sense, they're going to continue to ask this question. and unless and until a system of BKRs is implemented that *does* appear to make sense at first glance, the questions will keep coming. just ignore them if you like; it's evident that you don't *need* to keep explaining because other people who grasp the system, like BBW, will do it for you.

your time is much better spent on updating and upgrading and tweaking and all the other vastly more important stuff that only you can do.

right? :)

BBW: Yes, it would be useful for me as well :-) I currenly sort bugs by priority, so it shows the open ones at the top of the list.

Yea, the bug list is getting long - hard to remember what is there or not.

Fencer - I know it's not a top priority, but would be nice to sort bug list to show still open bugs only.

thank you very much, BBW - that's just the kind of explanation i was hoping for!

yea verily dost thou rule. :)

tiger

Thanks BBW, I must have missed that one

Stevie - I think that is a bug if there is a draw (Bug #7)

If that was not a draw, then there is another problem. :-)

How many more questions about BKR? Whether the formula seems fair or unfair, accept it. I explained it many times and I don't want to repeat it again.
Vacation days should be fixed.

Doing the math, especially when users have few games you can see a lot of weired things..... and when i say few games, that is under 100.

1) Doing the math, even if you win you could actually lose rating points. (But I believe in the coding of BK, you will never lose points for a win - even if the math says so) - hence, sometimes your rating will just not move.

2) Ratings are rounded. So if says you have 1700, you may actually have 1700.2 --- and then if you win, your rating might raist to 1700.4, but will still show as 1700.

3) The fewer games you have finsihed, the more erradic your rating will be. BK tries to solve this a little to not even show you ratings until 4 games are done, and not show established until 25 games are complete. (Heck, I actually think I read somewhere where 400 games should be the minimum amount of games that need to be complete before getting a good established rating.)

4) Good news is that Fencer is working on a way to recalculate all the ratings from day 1 on all the games soon.... so if people really think things are off a little (And my froglet rating is about 30 points to low because of a bad game timeout), it will be fixed!

Stevie: old BKR = 1748, new BKR = 1748 (0)
fullmoonhawke: old BKR = 1799, new BKR = 1799 (0)

I am the one who was and is 1799 and fullmoonhawke is/was 1748

It swapped the bkr, but luckily left them correct on our profiles LOL

i recently had some funky business with BKRs too: here are the results of the last four games of Froglet i completed, in order:

plaintiger: old BKR = 1700, new BKR = 1700 (0)
MsDelete: old BKR = 1301, new BKR = 1240 (-61)

plaintiger: old BKR = 1700, new BKR = 1700 (0)
Paula29: old BKR = 873, new BKR = 871 (-2)

plaintiger: old BKR = 1700, new BKR = 1700 (0)
TJ: old BKR = unrated, new BKR = unrated

plaintiger: old BKR = 1700, new BKR = 1707 (+7)
Lorraine: old BKR = unrated, new BKR = unrated

can anyone explain the logic behind this (without getting too much into mathematics, which will serve no purpose but to bewilder me instantly)?

why did i get no points for three wins in a row - for one of which my opponent lost SIXTY-ONE points, and one of which was against an unrated player - and then get seven points for the fourth game, also against an unrated player?

this makes no sense to me at all.

oh yeah: the ratings of the first two players were established (not provisional).

thanks...

le tigre

Stevie, I think 1500 is the axis so 1600 is way above compared to 1200 which is way below.

I was aprox 1650bkr, playing someone aprox 1250.
I win, and get +7, they get 0
we draw other game, I lose 32, they get +42
I could understand changes of that size on a draw when high and low bkr, but those bkr are both mid range id have said :o(

rats. I liked have 30 days again.

Yes, there was a bug. It will be fixed with the next update.

I'll check it.

I thought the vacation counter is reset on January 1st?
I've just looked at mine, and it says 30 left. I know I've taken days in July, I think I've checked 15 days. mind you, I'm not complaing...

I want to place it to some "smarter" location when I find out how it can be done in Javascript and DHTML :-)

Yes, any page - right above & to the left of "Main page" in the left hand menu.

I'm not sure how it looks when the page is not in the columns layout - I think I'll go look!

EDIT - Just looked, same place. :-)

It works from any page, not just the 'main page' What I'm saying is that you can do it from here, from inside a game, or anywhere :)

BBW, thanks, I followed your instuctions for eagle eye and it works for me. Live and learn a new thing everyday; that's what they say.

I think it is for knights and above only. Plus it sounds like it does not work with WebTV either.

To see it, first you have to change your settings so Javascript will work.

Then in the upper left corner of the screen (above & left of "Main Page"), if you stick your mouse there, a drop down menu will list the first 30 games which it is your turn to move in the order that in on the main page.

I'm lost :-) what is a Hot Spot? how can I see it? and what it for?

first of all you have to be at least a knight

..cant seem to find out where you upload a photo to your profile.can anyone advise please?
8^)steve

seems Skyking deleted his question again and made everyone looks silly LOL

Of course I am here. And it's not a bug. It can happen when you are close to the limit and new tournament games are generated for you.

Ooooops!!...i was sure i had "him" on hide!!...done!! LOL

Can you sort out these clocks.

The number on my bike lock is 6413, (dont tell LongJohn in case he sends some boys round to nick it) that's a total of 14, my problem is at which numbers should I best set it when I'm away?

I'm a numbers girl, I want to teach math. I don't get up high often anyway, and 15 vs 7 is a big deal! lol but now it's all fixed. thanks stevie.

My problem, I'll mention whatever you'd like.

oooooooooops nope, thats my post count isnt it LOL

Mentioning wha?

nope, its you who keeps mentioning it LOL

I thought your nerdity was about total moves?(?).

add me to that list then Ughaibu

What amazes me is that even two (Erinity and Gothic) are so nerdy about their ratings that they actually noticed.

since BK2 there has been a funny, it will catch up sooner or later :o)

I won 3 games of battleboats plus and my rank hadn't changed. I looked at the list to see if maybe the next person up was way ahead of me and there are ppl higher than me who have lower scores. So is there a time delay in that? i thought I had seen it change instanteously before. Just asking... :)

When I view players on line and the number given has a disparity to the number that I can view, does this accurately indicate the number of members online upon whose enemies list I am?

I will have to look at the source code to be sure but I think that each round is created by current average BKR of teams.

Question - for team tournaments, each team is sorted by rating.

... and since ratings can change...

When the second round starts, does the team order stay the same as the first round, or does each team get reordered by what the rating is at that time?

the hot spot work even if ur not on main page.
:o{P

Ahh.. I see where the "hot spot" is. Now that I changed Settings, there is a blank space between "Main Page" and "New Game" in the menu.
I can confirm that indeed, it does NOT work for WebTV... :-D (For the reasons stated in the previous post)

Doesn't sound like something I'll miss too much anyways, though.

Can someone describe exactly what you see?.. I'm just curious... I can't check in to Brainking from the computers at work anymore..

JavaSCRIPT works with webtv. But as IMupChucKing stated, there has to be at least a link for us to move our "cursor" over it.
An example would be, that I believe if PC users put their cursor over a flag, it says what country it is? (I know it's something like that.. I could be wrong about exactly what it is.) But since the flags are not "clickable", we can't place our "cursor" over it, and get that information. So whatever it is you guys are talking about, I'm sure it most likely won't work with WebTV

No!
But I dont know if it is a java thing or not. We jast dont use a mouse, and cannot make it go anywhere that ther is no link. My curser does not go to any blank or hotspot links on the main page though :(

IMCK - Does it work with WebTV?

just found that LOL
got it now :o)

Oh, Stevie has no games to view... that would help! :-)

I'm on column layout also. Are you on a PC? Did you make sure that the javascript option is now checked in your profile? Then the question would be is what browser are you useing.