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11. juni 2008, 19:20:18
LionsLair 
Emne: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
Modifisert av LionsLair (11. juni 2008, 20:29:14)
Today I learn that you could avoid a backgammon by resigning the game as my opponent did in this game.
Backgammon (LionsLair vs. AlliumCepa)
Thus only giving up one point instead of 3. I'll have to use this info for future reference when I find myself in that situation. Tis a sad way to play in MHO, but if the system lets you... as the old saying goes, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

11. juni 2008, 19:29:36
paully 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
LionsLair: you didnt have to accept the resignation.

11. juni 2008, 19:33:29
Andersp 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
LionsLair: Can you get 3 points in a 5 win match without cube?

11. juni 2008, 19:36:36
paully 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
Andersp: lol I didn't look at the game, good point Andersp, a gammon etc in those type of games is irrelevant.

11. juni 2008, 20:27:24
LionsLair 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
Andersp:
Oops! my bad! I didn't realize it was a 5 game match and not a 5 point match. That makes all the difference in the world. I guess I was having a blonde moment so to speak and was looking more forward to the rare backgammon... My apologies!

11. juni 2008, 20:19:13
coan.net 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
LionsLair: Yup - like Andersp said - it is a 5 WIN match - does not use the cube, so even if you won by a gammon, you would still only get 1 win.

As a side note for cube games, I'm pretty sure you are given the points where the current pieces are - so a early resignation will lose the person a gammon.

12. juni 2008, 02:27:55
playBunny 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
coan.net: As a side note for cube games, I'm pretty sure you are given the points where the current pieces are

You are.

...so a early resignation will lose the person a gammon.

It'll be a backgammon until the backrunners are clear of the opponent's home and that's often way into the mid game and later.

13. juni 2008, 12:43:51
saeco 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
playBunny: iirc, you can't resign and lose a gammon. i think that a resign means you lose a backgammon as long as you haven't moved out any piece - even if a backgammon would be technically impossible at the time. of course the option to resign a game as a gammon would be good, but i don't think we have it here.

13. juni 2008, 15:08:09
toedder 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
saeco: I think you're right although I haven't tried it, because I guess it will work similar to the time outs - and I once lost 3 points on a timeout when there was no confrontation on board and noone had a huge edge, so a backgammon was impossible and a gammon close to impossible.

13. juni 2008, 16:54:59
playBunny 
Emne: Re: Wow, I learn something new everyday!
saeco: i think that a resign means you lose a backgammon as long as you haven't moved out any piece

You mean moved a piece off the board? No, it's a backgammon only if there are pieces in the opponent's home or on the bar and none of your own already borne off.

iirc, you can't resign and lose a gammon

If you resign when you're clear of your opponent's home then you'll be asked to confirm losing a gammon.

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