Purple: ok, let's put a stone on km's grave, never forgetting the evilness of a few (5, huh?)... Now, back to the first goal, and I hope you do have a word to say... It is regretable to use programs in our games!  It's not honest and this should be inculcated in everyone's conciousness. We can't prove with certainty that someone used a program against us, but we can decline a game against someone if we suspect he's using a program. The only way I have to check if someone's using a program is to analyse all moves and make a comparison. and even so it's very hard, because we have to run several programs. So, back to beginning, unless someone has a better idea, its all a question of conciousness...