What is this thing of Beck's... The Black Robe Regiment??

Why did the Mormons supply 30 out of 42 million dollars in the Prop 8 ballot campaign in California in aid to outlaw gay marriage??

Artful Dodger: We "libs" (as you call us) did not go to the lengths to disrespect Bush as you do Obama. We had a go at policy, mistakes as you'd expect.

As for free speech.. there comes responsibility.. you cannot moan in the future on how anyone talks about your hero's.. such as Beck and Palin.. or the Tea party.

Artful Dodger: MaYbE oBaMa WoRk'S fOr TyRa

Artful Dodger: Why are they hiding under the chair?

Artful Dodger:

Artful Dodger:

> Did you NOT see how much money that idiot is borrowing against our future?
> Did you not see the comparison over the last 200 plus years vrs his 19 months in office?

Is that Bush or Obama? The truth is that every president has always borrowed more than the previous guy, even Bill Clinton, who ended with a surplus, borrowed more than the previous administrations. George W. Bush borrowed more than any president in history. That information you posted a while back assigned to Obama the bailout for the banks, and that was George W. Bush's idea. Obama merely enacted a lot of policies born at the end of the Bush administration in agreement with the Federal Reserve. In that sense it is unfair to blame Obama for a lot of policies generated in a Republican administration.

The Col:

The Col: The big difference is that Obama is a dunce when it comes to running a country. Did you NOT see how much money that idiot is borrowing against our future? Did you not see the comparison over the last 200 plus years vrs his 19 months in office? How about the fact that the Democrats, under his leadership, passed a health care bill complete with loads of earmarks - some for the most ridiculous of things. It can't be paid for and will likely be repealed. Do you, like many of your liberal friends, not get it that Obama is a failure as a president? He's so unpopular that many would rather have Bush back?

You're so disingenuous. Opportunistic. So eager to point a finger without owning up to your own choices. Look back on your own posts and clean up your own bashings, both subtle and overt. Then you'll have the credibility with me and I'll listen.

But you won't. Have any of you libs actually made a coherent case for Obama's policies?

no

Try that sometime. Something that's not dripping with the usual sarcasm. Til then, you get what you give.

Artful Dodger: Actually pretty accurate, you guys put the Bush bashers to shame, repubs can kick some butt

The Col: disingenuous

Artful Dodger: But weren't the repubs saying the same about Bush bashing? I expected more from you guys, two wrongs don't make a right do they? are you guys no better than those nutty libs?

The Col: You must mean like you libs showed for Bush. Free Speech here. We like to use it. You object to my Constitutional right to free speech? tsk, tsk

So little respect for the president of your country, tsk tsk

From the moment Washington took the oath of office to the moment Obama took the oath, the US had borrowed 9 trillion dollars. In the last 19 months, we've borrowed 3.5 trillion dollars. You do the math. And Obama plans to borrow more.

They are doing this:

Well, some apparently do. Remember, Obama took Ohio. That was then.

An Ohio poll - run by a democratic group
asked "Who would Ohio voters rather have as a President?

George W, Bush 50%
Barack Obama 42%

Artful Dodger:

"GERRY": Republican's will control both the House and Senate and they won't let him.

Hey Dems, it's pay back time. Bye Bye Pelosi hello Congressional investigations of Democratic corruption. Lots to choose from too.

Artful Dodger: I was waiting for words of wisdom LOL....no wuks hahahahaha

Artful Dodger: Will they let him go past 9 trillion dollars ?

From the moment Washington took the oath of office to the moment Obama took the oath, the US had borrowed 9 trillion dollars. In the last 19 months, we've borrowed 3.5 trillion dollars. You do the math. And Obama plans to borrow more.

asked "Who would Ohio voters rather have as a President?

George W, Bush 50%
Barack Obama 42%

Artful Dodger: oh my gawd

"GERRY": The others reply too but they never really say anything.

Artful Dodger: You will always get reply's from me I love your cartoons

Bernice: that's what happens when i stop posting for a while

whatever happened to the sensible and logical conversation in here.....cant understand most of it...

Maybe will see see another Britishhhh & Yankeeaaa war here if you like booze & if there weed into look out

If he isn't pulling a Borat,the men in the white coats can't be far behind

http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/18000/

The Col: Not seen any that I'd recognise by name... Me .. usually Golden Champion.. lovely Brit ale.

Is this how a bunch of drunks run the mess your in what ever country you 're in at this moment

Artful Dodger: And Bush didn't.... what about Nixon??? Raygun was incompetent. Blair "sexed" things up in the Iraq war case.

"when liberals have no points to make (none that really matter) then always try to marginalize the opposition."

... Sorry, it could be said you are doing that to any liberal comment "they are left wing extremists".. or are you saying you are a victim of being in the political arena??

(V): I drink Stella Artois, but have you ever tried a Canadian beer?

The Col: ?? Like we say with Fosters.. just save ya body the trouble and pour it down the loo!! American beers are not popular here. We've got so much good stuff made in the UK and EU.

We're her to comment on American issues, not canuck junk.There must be a hockey game going on somewhere eh, go buy a two four, and watch it...............................and don't forget my extra crispy, the perfect companion to an evening with friends and family

Übergeek 바둑이: So am i But i do Know who did all the work & it was THE WHITE MAN that forced slaves to come here or i should say to north america to do all the work to what is today

"GERRY":

> The true native canadians have the power now so why worry

I wonder where in Canada you live. I suppose having Stephen Harper as prime minister really really means Canadians have political power. But then, most Canadians are too complacent to even realize how bad the government here is. Living in Alberta all I can say is that Conservatives here are good for only one thing: giving money away to big business. People here dream that if enough oil money comes into this place, their lives will somehow be better. Nobody wants to see that all that the Conservatives ever did is give away our natural resources to Big Oil, in exchange for peanuts and scraps. The Liberals merely turned a blind eye to it and couldn't even pretend to care. The Socialists (NDP) were too worried trying to look centrist and not left wing, so they did nothing. The Green Party are just like the Liberals, except they pretend to care about the environment, as long as the Capitalist business agenda is not affected. The Bloc Quebecois can't see past the borders of Quebec and cares about nobody else and uses Quebecois nationalism as a tool to cement their own political power. Other parties are too small to even make a dent on the system. Canada probably has the most mediocre political system on the planet. At least in other parts of the World people have the guts to fight back, but we Canadians are gutless.

True native Canadians? You means First Nations like Cree, Black Foot, etc.? If you mean Frist Nations people, they are the poorest, most dispossed and least empowered people in this country. From where I stand, 60% of the people in this country are first or second generation immigrants. Most of my friends (even those with 3 or 4 generations in Canada) have immigrant relatives somewhere, or relatives outside of Canada. We are a country of immigrants. What is a true native Canadian? I am curious to know.

Artful Dodger: Obama is a very wise person he can change to any party he wants to he has that choice now.he is in power there now man

Übergeek 바둑이: If Obama were Republican he'd wouldn't be for huge spending on entitlements and wouldn't surround himself with so many incompetents.

Übergeek 바둑이: The true native canadians have the power now so why worry ? & so will Obama if givin the the chance

Artful Dodger:

> He said one thing, he did another. He's under-handed and totally unqualified to be
> President. He's a fish out of water. He's clueless. And he's ruining America. He's
> surrounded by a bunch of incompetents who are clueless on how to effectively run a
> government.

Is that Bush or Obama?

All presidents seem to fit your comment! Nixon? Carter? Clinton? Bush Sr.? Even Ronald Regan falls into this one.

I can say the same about all our Canadian Prime Ministers and prominent politicians. Say one thing, do another. Undermine the opposition. Use underhanded tactics to get what you want. Chose incompetent, clueless fools to the highest posts in office, etc.

If Obama were a Republican, would he be different? Maybe only in so far as giving more tax breaks to the rich. But then, all politicians are really good at giving free money to the rich in the form of tax breaks, bailouts, etc. I see little difference from one party to another, because the real infection is in the political system itself, not just individual parties.

BTW, in case you lemmings missed it, a democrat wrote that.

The great author, James Thurber, wrote a short story titled "Conversation with a Lemming."

The crux of the story is that a guy walking through the woods meets a lemming and they sit down and talk. At the end of the story, the guy says to the lemming, "You know, I never understood why every few years, you lemmings get together and commit suicide by marching into the sea."

The lemming responds, "That's interesting. I never understood why you humans don't."

Well, as concerns the Democratic Party, it seems the lemming was wrong. We've committed political suicide for the past three elections, even if it meant that that the Republicans had to pick up a sea and place it in front of us. The point is we walked into it anyway and, for the most part, didn't scream foul.

Well, how about 2006 and 2008? Are we going to go on being lemmings? So far, I don't see any Democrat shrieking about the sea that's still in our path. (Read no verifiable, election paper trails and voter disenfranchisement into that.)