Artful Dodger: So... Moses and everyone before Christ and everyone after Christ but before his word was spread is automatically damned?? What about the Good Samaritan?

AD has been accused of sleeping in a lot of places, so I reckon he is guilty on this one as well HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Artful Dodger: Using God again!!!

"....ny person who understands the geography, economics, and history of the region knows full well that a two-state solution is the fantasy of a liberal mind. Since the left does not believe in common sense, G-d made the rule that the land should not be divided--and if it is, He will enter into judgement on account of the land as well as the mistreatment of His heritage, Israel. The land, based on prophecy, will be divided and those who support such a division need to watch out, for G-d clearly states in Joel 3:2 NKJ why He will judge the nations who divide His land, when his arm (Messiah) will come in battle for Israel. .."

Well I guess it helps him sell a myriad of books, videos and pay per view.

Personally I think he's just jumping on the band wagon like a snake oil seller.

.. with "Pirates of the Caribbean" music playing in the background....

Former Bosnian Serb army chief Ratko Mladic has filed an appeal against his extradition to the UN war crimes tribunal in The Hague. His family says Gen Mladic is too sick to travel, but the Serbian government is expected to reject the appeal.

Gen Mladic is accused of committing war crimes during the Bosnian war, including the 1995 Srebrenica massacre of 7,500 Muslim men and boys.

Gen Mladic was seized last Thursday in Lazarevo village, north of Belgrade. On Sunday, thousands of people rallied in Belgrade against his arrest. The demonstrators hailed the general as a Serbian national hero. About 100 people were arrested during clashes with police in the Serbian capital.

Know your enemy
Jerry Philipson

Artful Dodger: This could be said of many religious people based on events rather than it's Holy Book. Some who call themselves Christians love the idea of all others (including many Christians as well) dying... Some Muslim extremists relish the same idea.

But both Christianity and Islam preach love thy neighbour and not to bear false witness.

Tuesday: probably the same reason a moth flys to a flame

Artful Dodger: It's difficult dealing with a partner who's stated goal is driving you into the sea

Artful Dodger: Such a rose coloured view of Israeli policy. Especially as Israel seem to be getting confused.

Sounds like the IRA money raisers in the USA painting the "cause" as noble while civilians on all sides were dying.

Artful Dodger: Like those who missed Obama being elected as it was not news worthy? Maybe some read this newpaper and still thought Bush was El President.

Übergeek 바둑이: And of the supplies to the IRA that Gaddafi made in response to an attack by the USA in the 80's on Tripoli... One word that comes from the times that Gaddafi supplied the IRA.. SEMTEX.

....The Lockerbie bombing was just one instance, while the SEMTEX was used in at least 250 booby trap bombings.

"In contrast, our warplanes have killed two of Gaddafi's sons and three of his grandchildren, all aged under 2."

And of the many kids killed or hurt by the weapons he provided to the IRA... which the Libyans and old IRA members have confirmed (as did the capture of one shipment) he did authorise the supply of weapons including... AK47's.. surface to air missiles and SEMTEX.

.. 120 tonnes of weapons .. 5 tonnes captured.

(V):

>Gaddafi is a known aggressor.. are you saying Bush and Obama have committed worse acts of terrorism and mass murder, or killed more of their own people then Gaddafi has?

Gaddafi is accused of ordering terrorist attacks against the West. As I mentioned some 1000 posts ago, the witness at the trial was very flimsy and left a big reasonable doubt about the accused. Then nobody can prove that Gaddafi ordered the bombing. It is surmised by the west, but never proven.

In contrast, our warplanes have killed two of Gaddafi's sons and three of his grandchildren, all aged under 2. The questions is, if somebody killed your family, would you hold feeling of friendship towards them?

As for Bush, does the Iraq War count? I can ask, who has attacked who? How many Lybian war planes have bombed the Us or the UK? It is like Iraq, how many times did Iraq attack the US directly? Or Vietnam, how many times did the Vietnamese attack the US or France?

Is it just me or are the bombings all going one way? It is the way of empires. Empires attack, then they blame the "barbarians" at the other side. It worked great for the Romans, and it still works great today. Our modern Capitalist Empire (The Nato axis) are the Mongols of the modern era.

PaoloRus: Gaddafi is a known aggressor.. are you saying Bush and Obama have committed worse acts of terrorism and mass murder, or killed more of their own people then Gaddafi has?

I know the west has/is a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to violence but.... ....!!

Artful Dodger: Isn't "left" a relative term to a persons own perceived political stance.

The Communist party in the UK would say that the Labour party is right of them politically. Yet the Conservative party would say the Labour party is left of them... yet Labour would say the Conservative were right even though the BNP would say the Conservatives are left wing relatively.

I think that the great leader of his country - it's Qaddafi, not Bush or Obama. Bush and Obama are chauvinists and aggressors.
yes yes )))

Tuesday: I'm not really upset, I just find ANY racial /ethnic slang or whatever disturbing

Artful Dodger: But there isn't a US Liberal Party, it's just a general term. Like Republican, Democrat and Moderate.

Tuesday: That's like the Daily Mail. When most of the UK's papers are reporting 'X' as the headlines.. The Daily Mail comes up with a story that most would consider just plain gossip, or highly selected words that end up with them in the courts again!!

rod03801: And it seems a 'good bulk' of cons state that all 'lib' policies are socialist.. which, it seems is a relative term. I can understand disagreement, but using a term which thanks to the Cold War is considered anti American and an insult just appears to be playing old stereotypes.. Which Conservatives appear to complain they are being targetted by.

Just more "false conflict" is it not?

Tuesday: Griffith

Tuesday: I know how to read. Don't start getting rude. You can replace "rednecks" and "non-rednecks" in what I said as well.

Tuesday: "They"?

You fail to mention that the reason "They" end up having to bring it up, is because a good bulk of libs accuse every one else of being racist for disagreeing with anything the incompetent man does. It's really the libs who play the race card. It has happened so much, I can understand "them" possibly feeling the need to start statements out that way. (It's not because he's black, but)

It seems though from what I've read that the terms (democrat/republican) realistically in terms of being conservative/liberal/moderate have no real meaning. It is possible that a Republican can be liberal and that a Democrat can be conservative. When saying (as it seems to be the way on this board) the likes of "democrats are 'x', republicans are 'y'" it appears this is a void argument.

When the likes of Charles Krauthammer are considered 'neo-conservative' yet hold many "liberal" ideas, such as ...."legalized abortion, an opponent of the death penalty, an intelligent design critic and an advocate for the scientific consensus on evolution, calling the religion-science controversy a "false conflict;" a supporter of embryonic stem cell research using embryos discarded by fertility clinics with restrictions in its applications, and a longtime advocate of radically higher energy taxes to induce conservation"

Political fencing of ideas into camps is imho a fallacy.

Tuesday:
law allows a person who has completed their sentence, (including any fines, parole or probation) to immediately re-register. There is no waiting period, special application or other process.

The term comes from having darker skin around the neck. People who work in farming and ranching spend long hours in the sun. Their neck becomes sunburned around the collar of their shirt. It is a sign of hard work. Some people find it offensive, others do not. People in some rural areas tend to vote more for right wing, conservative political parties. It is a reflection of religious, economic and political values.

It is not always the case. There are parts of Canada where "rednecks" have voted for left wing parties. Saskatchewan was the birthplace of the National Democratic Party, Canada's socialist party. The left wing ideals sprung during the Great Depression. As Saskatchewan was runed into a dust bowl, the right wing governments failed to do anything to help farmers. People in those areas turned to socialism as a counterbalance to urban right wing conservatism.

I will never speak poorly of rednecks. I might disagree with their political views or their religious conservatism. However, they are the ones who plant and grow all the food I eat, and for that I am grateful.

Tuesday: the labels "rednecks" and "white trash" are considered by many to be offensive, just so you know

Tuesday: Morality of the dollar in some cases I think.

"can't get used to a new face in the White House, and it's the white trash that don't and can't vote and can't get used to a new face in the White House."

But it was inevitable after the end of segregation and out birth of the various civil rights movements that someone rather than a white male would end up as President. Just as Maggie Thatcher ended up breaking the run of all male Prime Ministers.