buckwheat, we've all had games go back a few moves. I've had to start one all over again! It wasn't an intentional thing to set all the games back and if there was any way around it then Fencer would have done it by now. This is still a new site that is growing and it will encounter problems along the way. But you won't find a better, friendlier site with owners that care as much. No matter what inconvieniences there are, its worth it just to have this site at all.

i bet the guy i beat in the tank game will agree with you...and probably laughing as he makes a different move now

how about we rename it to...joke-of-a-gamesite.com...lol

to spot a player too heinous to stand by his former move
would be very convenient for me - wouldn't play him again
and spare idle effort thus ...

the problem are 'dark games' that timed out, not your easy worries.

btw IYT has had riots of chain reactions at messing up
dark games, haven't seen you there crying out loud ...

they called it 'inconvenience' btw and apologized ~*~

PS
chill - this is the day after ...
sorry the massage-saloon doesan't work yet

Well I'm sorry your game is messed up, but I guess you have an advantage now in other games that you didn't have before. You could always ask your oppenent to be fair and make the same moves again until you get to where you last were.. if you remember the moves that is!

the ratings aren't gonna be a very accurate thing anymore now are they....how about just dropping them...

i don't play dark games...if you wanna complain about them you'll have to do it yourself

Buckwheat, the ratings will still be fairly accurate, and in a bit of time they will be fully accurate again. And as Dano suggested, it would be only fair in games like chess, tank battle etc, if you made identical moves where possible. There is no need to over-react to this situation. Fencer has explained how it happened and apologised, there is nothing more he can do. And nothing more we can do but get on with it and make the best of it. I'm just glad we are back online and I am able to play again.

you complained - I wait til the massage works again ...
more convenient you know ... :D ... ~*~

yippee...i can play..i won but at any time it could become a loss...or lost moves....

buckwheat.. you have an advantage over a lot of the members here in some ways when this happens.. you only have a maximum of 20 games to remember the moves on, some of us members have over a hundred or many more.. what are the chances of us remembering all the moves we made????

And guess what buckwheat? Not everyone is overly worried about ratings etc. The object of the game is to HAVE FUN! So if you win, you win. If you were good enough to beat the person one time and it changes because of all this, invite them to another game and beat them again. That is unless you are afraid that you can't do it again.

Thanks again Fencer and Liquid for all your work.

it's not that easy go ...
and your object is not my object - I have fun by winning too.
but indeed buckwheat has only provisional ratings
- with mine it would take much more effort and be
even impossible by simply 'winning one game' ...
therefore restauring of my ratings is essential for me,
after they got messed up by server malfunctions ...
else it takes months to balance - a crash every few
weeks and your advice volatilizes nicely, MidMed ... :O

but for me, zero problemo to have a few days patience until
Fencer has worked through the really urgent problems here ... ~*~

I suppose the rating is rather important for those
(besides Gothic Chess Pro) who want to be rich in the "Gothic Chess WC" :)

Buckwheat you can always go somewhere else and play. There will probably be a lot more problems before they get all the bugs worked out of the system. Thats expected with a new site trying to please everyone. Give Fencer the time and support he needs to make this the best site. Or keep complaining and watch him say it isn't worth it and shut it down completely.

Fencer has done an excellent job with this site. He deserves our support, not ridicule, especially from non-paying pawns. Complaining isn't going to change anything...not for the better anyway. Let's weather this storm together. Anyone up for a hurricane party?.. Ö¿~

Was buckwheat the first grouse to be shot on the 'Glorious Twelfth'?

i will make this apology now.. as i have just been accused of cheating! by making a different move in a game from when the site was down..
I want to assure everyone, that i do not cheat! if i could remember my exact moves i would do them again! the game was a tourney game, it was a FUN??? tourney! and i get accused of cheating! the players rating was over 1000 higher than mine... so the person would of obviously won whatever...

anyway, again any apologies if i do this to anyone else, it is truly not intentional!

True friends don't need it,
and your enemies won't believe you anyway ... ~*~

yes thats true... but i wont be accused of doing something i just DONT do...

Firstly, I know you don't cheat, chatty!

Secondly, where is it written that we have to make the same moves as before anyway?

Hmmm, since a database crash is very rare event [it never happened before and the site has been launched almost a year ago], I would not define any policy for such situation.

Yesterday I wrote an E-Mail to fencer@brainking.com. It could not be delivered within 8 hours. And why does the "Contact" not work?

Because our mail server is down. Use internal messages instead.

When we fix the database server.

Chatty, this is something I've been a bit worried about, not making the same moves as before, and being thought of (if not outright accused) as a cheat. But everyone is in the same boat, I've resigned a few games I know I lost the first time round, and I have had people also resign games I won... but if I have forgotten a game or not made moves I should have, then I would ask my opponents to tell me rather than stew on it! Its a genuine mistake (my memory isn't great!) and given a nudge I'll make the 'right' moves!

harley - that's fine for non-dice games, but in the gammon games the dice are different to the first time (I think!).

if i had remembered which games i had finished harley i would of resigned, i sent an apology to the person concerned and also resigned .. i have another one at least that i have to resign when they return it.. but the message i had from the opponent was downright rude in my way of thinking! and there was no need for it.. which is also why i made a public apology!

Personally I couldn't even tell you which ones were set back for me? So likewise, if I move diferently I apologise in advance.

I thought you moved in mysterious ways Aragon!

LMAO - Oh I do!!

You're right, Cariad, I think the dice games are different this time around. But we just have to grin and get on with it! lol! Not a lot we can do about those!

Chatty, I really wouldn't worry, everyone here who knows you knows that you wouldn't deliberately cheat in a game. I've probably made moves different to the first time, and I know many of my opponents have, just because we can't remember the first set of moves! I don't think that calls for any nastiness, a simple message saying "do you remember... such and such moves were made before"... and we'd probably remember!
Allowances have to be made for people who do not take games so seriously they remember every move made! :oD
(Cariad, Aragon pretends to move in mysterious ways when he hasn't got a clue where to move!! lol)

Dang, I've been sused!! ROFL

Three Cheers to CaoZ for becoming the first Brain Maharajah. If I could I would for sure!

WTG CaoZ!!!!!! Nice one!! I also wish I could afford that membership!! Hip, hip, hooray!!!

true ambition yeah. - ... my respect, Carlos ... :) ~*~

nice one CaoZ.. wish i could do that :)))

WOW! Wish I could do it too! WTG!! :o)

Perhaps if it was renamed to : Brain Marijuana it would prove more popular (regardless of cost)?? LOL

Very nice CaoZ!

Well done CaoZ. &:O)
Hope there's more people out there with the money and dedication, so that Fencer can get his new equipment!

Is there a link on this site to change my password? If there is, could someone please point me in the right direction, as i can't seem to find it.
Thanks in advance.

rahvin666: Go to your Profile / Edit page.

Thanks Fencer. I looked everywhere except there!

I should update FAQ ;-)

I would imagine that's quite a way down your list ;O)
Keep up the good work and ignore all the complainers. (We'll take them round the back later and give them a good talking too)...LOL

dont people have better things to do than to sit and bitch about something they can't control.

of course not COLEY....thats what makes the world go round...besides one of these days all the bitchin etc might pay off...we all might win the lotto and donate to Fencer LOL...also why would you want to be in CONTROL of everything in life :)

I went through 87 moves without a hitch!!! No 'capacity full'.
Thanks, Fencer.

It seems that aggregation of web and application servers and database replication are worth something :-)