Czuch Chuckers: I just want things kept under control. After your post, 50 appeared within minutes, many irate or emotional. Surely you can see its a never-ending subject with no real answer.

I dont understand who is being protected here and why? A handfull of multi niks? To keep other topics from being buried?

You want this swept under the rug, my advice is to allow it to run its course, it will make it disappear a lot faster than censorship will! Or maybe you dont want Pedro to remove the board from his favorites list????? That must be it! LMBO!

Czuch Chuckers: "involves and effects everyone here on brainking"

It doesn't involve and effect me at all, Chuck. Plus I'm sure that if you asked more than half of the 25302 BK users, they would tell you that they've never heard of anyone named bumble.

harley: Yes. Because everybody knows that Yahoo group doesn't engage in censorship welcomes new ideas unless they disagree with them. lol

I, for one among others, was removed because I didn't share in their worldview. Anyone here is welcome to go to the Yahoo group as long as you are prepared to agree with them.

Czuch Chuckers: What issue?

harley: So the time and place to discuss an issue that involves and effects everyone here on brainking, is now and on another website?

Walter Montego: I'm sorry Walter, I really thought you were a moderator, my mistake.

It isn't a case of brushing things under the carpet, you'll find at the yahoo group I'm very interested in what people say about this subject. But here it just isn't appropriate to speculate about one person/family/whatever. Time and a place, thats all.

harley: Here, I'll hold this end of the carpet up and you bring the broom over. And whatever happened to this link, Harley? I've given up waiting for a reply, but I'm still curious. http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=1&ngi=501495


Czuch: General Chat, sure Czuch. It won't last long there. Good luck. Let me tomorrow if there's anything left of it.

Pedro Martínez: The most welcome message I could get in reply. Thank you Pedro.

volant: Thank you too.

رضا: ﺒﻭﺭﻭﺰ ﻤﻭﺒﺍﺭﺍﮎ, ﺭﺿﺎ

رضا: HAPPY NEW YEAR

Your right who ever said this is turning into a soap opera.

harley: General chat seems to be a good place to continue this discussion, since pawns can read there too, and since I have endured thousands of topics there that i dont personally like!

or Pedro and opthers who do not want to participate, I suggest you take gen chat off your list now, not that you will miss much as reading that board can be really aweful to endure most of the time anyway!

Sorry to interupt the HOT conversation, but:

HAPPY NEW YEAR. WE ARE NOW IN YEAR 1385.

I wish all of you the best of luck and a year full of joy.

srnity: Try the yahoo group. pawns are welcome there. I'm sorry you can't get into fellowships here, I'm sure you'd like them.
Yes, boards do get cleaned up quite a lot when subjects go way off topic mainly because people coming online and reading it feel the need to answer, justifying it by saying they weren't online at the time.

harley: Thanks harley - I was already thinking of removing this board from my favorite ones.

Czuch Chuckers: Gotta say it - Truth shall set you free and all that - Sitting here reading all of this, wondering what truth lies in fiction, and waiting, just waiting, for every post to just magically disappear from view - for a lowly pawn anyway - I've come to notice that "public" boards get wiped SQUEAKY clean REAL fast round these parts..... :)

ScarletRose: You and the person who wrote you the PM don't listen. I have NEVER said they/he/she didn't hurt anyone. I recommend to get a brain!

You would "expect my hesitancy on this issue since I use a black man to represent who I am"? Let me respond: WHAT???

ScarletRose: Pedro Martinez is Hispanic!

Sorry! Off topic :)~

Enough.

I understand people are curious and want to discuss this issue, but there is a yahoo group and a fellowship (I think) open to anyone who wishes to discuss it.

This is too emotional a subject to fill pages and pages on this board. If there was one straight easy answer it would be ok, but there isn't and probably never will be. So please, if you want to discuss it, go to the yahoo group or the fellowship. Any more posts will have to be deleted because they are off topic.

Andersp: LMBO!!! He died on Valentines day, so April one would be a great time for answers!

BBW, you didnt want to clutter the general chat board??? Thats another good joke!

Pedro Martínez: "And pedro is wrong...he did hurt people, he made how many people cry when he "died" It was ok to have board tied up with flowers for two days but not now to find out the truth?"

that is what came to me privately.. I will respect the privacy but that says exactly what is needed to..

I do realize though that I would expect your hmmm hesitancy on this issue.. especially since you use a black man to represent who you are..

BIG BAD WOLF: people have a choice of game sites similar to this one to use. Do people really want to play on one that has a scammer multi nik as a global moderator in charge of their posts and who other moderators are? I mean, look how many people related to Bumble are current moderators. What if they are all really the same person? Is that what we want for this site, a group of multi niks running the discussion boards? Maybe you are a multi nik as well? I have had Bumble moderate me and tell me he was saving the site from my post, now find out he was just a scammer? Is this the type of person we want to trust to help out here? We are told that Bumble is a private person, but he sure didnt prove that by his life on here, did he If I really wanted privacy, I could just play my games and chat a bit and everything would be fine. Nobody forced him to become a global moderator, nobody forced him to scam eveyone with a fake personal interview, did we? Is that the life of a person who wants privacy???? The answer to these questions surley is of public interest and concern to all here on Brainking!

Pedro Martínez We maybe get all the answers April 1st :)

ScarletRose: Does the fact (is that really a fact?) that I'm outnumbered necessarily mean that I'm not right?

Pedro Martínez: you are out numbered Pedro.. sorry..

Pedro Martínez: I agree with you Pedro...he/she/they have played a game with all of us, some people still refuse to believe it tho. But..i think its ok to talk about it to prevent that it happens again. I know a lot of people who gave him/her/them their mailadress (snailmail) so he/she/they could send a musiccasset, of course its no fun for those people to not know who they gave their adresses to.

ScarletRose: "It's a shame that you were led to believe they were all something they are not.."

I've never said I do or do not believe what has been said, what I have said is that it is really no one's business - who am I to demand information about someone's private life? This is an on-line game site, on-line being the key word - if someone does not want to give too much personal inforamatin about themsleves, then that is their right - to hound them to give personal information about themselves is border-line stalking.

I will never understand why is this such a big story. Did they/she/he do some harm to BrainKing? I don't think so. They/she/he actually helped the site a lot. Did they/she/he hurt anyone playing here? No matter what the answer to this question is, I don't see one valid reason why should it be discussed on this board. If the answer is no, then what's the problem? If the answer is yes, then these people should take care of it privately (since it's only a matter of these two parties) and not "bother" other people who have nothing in common with it.

BIG BAD WOLF: LOL, we are both doing the same thing then... I am only responding to a public post that announced Bumble is dead. That same post asked that we not ask any questions right away, when questions were brought up, they were deleted. Now it has been over amonth, and I think it has been plenty of time to hold off on any questions.

Is bumble really dead? How did he die? How about an obituary, or a funeral, or where to send condolences etc? These are all normal questions that we were asked to not ask for a period of time, that time has lapsed.

Tuesday: Wasn't "hushed", was pointed to other places so it does not take up a ton of room on the public board like all this is doing right now. Czuch has done what he wanted, and has caused more of a ruckas on this board.

Public mobs are not a good thing, no matter if you are part of the mob, the one being mobbed, or just watching the mob from the sideline.

BIG BAD WOLF: you would be surprised by some word of mouth at the group.. who has been taken advantage of and who has talked about it.. there are several others over there wanting to spill the beans as well but they hesitate due to peeps such as yourself who wish not to have open minds..

It is a shame that someone can get away with making a whole site mourn for them.. and spend all their free time searching for phrases to use at a funeral.. all in a good natured way.. to be drug into their lies.. (for whatever reason is beyond me)..

It's a shame that you were led to believe they were all something they are not..

Tuesday: I just do.

I've had it. If you all insist on keeping the witch hunt going, have at it. You're going to believe what you want to believe. Have fun. I'm done.

Tuesday: people are well liked for a reason.

Scarlet: word of mouth of a bunch of people gossiping won't affect a site in which people come to play games. It can cause people to want to leave tho.

ScarletRose: First you need to learn the difference between a rumor and a fact. So far it is a rumor that all these people are the same person. Fencer can see this information, and I'm sure he does keep track - and would not allow players on this site to be taken advantage of by people cheating. It looks like you are being swept up with rumors, and just because there are not any facts to counter these rumors does not make them true.

baddessi: are you in the yahoo group at all?? Probably not.. since you are set this way.. I recommend joining..

Tuesday: Why should they have to prove something that isn't true?
There's no proof there are multinics.
Fencer takes care of that. Don't you think that if it were true, something would have been done about it?
That right there is proof enough.

BIG BAD WOLF: so many peeps were played on BBW from this site.. are you saying it is allowed?? and why should we go private.. Fencer has the ability to see the IP numbers why did he allow it? And if he didn't want stuff like that to happen.. well.. it probably is still happening here.. just different nics now.. it should be a concern.. those who got burned and feel the site ignores it.. will eventually leave.. and their word of mouth can effect this site.. that's common sense..

alexlee: no, it's not the business of everyone on the site, just as your personal lives are not all of our business.

Tuesday: Every family is different then, aren't they? I'm godparents to 3 children and I've never had to submit to an interview. All they did was ask me and I said "yes".
And what does that have to do with a game site anyways?
Truthfully, I've about had it with this place. It used to be a friendly place where people could come to get away from their troubles and have fun and make friends. It doesn't feel like that any more to me.
It feels like a witch hunt, and for what purpose?
Comparing it to the KM is absurd. There's been no mass cheating and in fact, the tournaments started by many of the family members are prize tourneys for players on the site in which they aren't even participating. Look at their ratings....why would anyone accuse them of being a multi-nic for cheating purposes?
These people are my friends and are NOT multinics, and I'm very tired of this mob mentality. The only reason that I can come up with for everyone's curiosity is plain, simple nosiness.
"Inquiring minds have to know". Go buy a People magazine, or National Inquirer or a Star. I'm sure there's plenty of stories there far more interesting.

Czuch Chuckers: What are you talking about? I said take it to private weeks ago, the only things I've been doing now is replying to your PUBLIC posts. If you don't want a reply, then do not post. A third grader could tell you that.

BIG BAD WOLF: I did take it to a public board, and you said it should be handled in private.... I guess you cant follow your own advice? Be the big man here, that we all know you are, and take the high road, and respond only in private please, be a good example.

BIG BAD WOLF:
But isn't this the business of all members on BK who knew and liked Bumble? All they want to know is what happened?

Czuch Chuckers: Excuse me, you brought it to the public board, not me. Feel free to delete any of your post and will be happy to continue the conversation in private, as long as you promise not to start stalking me also because you feel like you need to be in other peoples business.