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19. Januaro 2003, 09:39:01
Fencer 
Temo: Re: suggestion
Will be done :-)

19. Januaro 2003, 11:17:56
ChessTiger 
Temo: Re: RULES - stalemate
Thanks!

20. Januaro 2003, 17:50:01
Uil 
Temo: Re: This may sound stupid...
A loop variation makes ir a bit more balanced, but with a good black opponent white will NEVER take a piece

20. Januaro 2003, 19:29:45
Fencer 
Temo: Re: RULES - stalemate
Done!

22. Januaro 2003, 15:49:26
pdj 
Temo: Draw
I was playing my friend (user checkm8) and i was, for want of a better phrase 'whoopin' his ass'. he was left with one pawn while i still has my queen, 2rooks, a knight and a pawn. i has his pawn stuck between my rook and my pawn so he could not move and the game was declared a draw. is this correct. because by my standing i thought it was fairly obvious that i has won.
thanx
PDJ

22. Januaro 2003, 18:01:55
Charles 
Temo: Re: This may sound stupid...
(reply to Uil) If that is the case, maybe throw in the three check variation as well.

23. Januaro 2003, 12:35:53
harley 
pdj... read server news on your front page, the rules have changed slightly so that white has to take EVERY black piece to win.
If black has one piece left but is unable to move because you are blocking him then its like stalemate and declared a draw.
It makes things a bit more even for both players!

23. Januaro 2003, 14:51:45
pdj 
Temo: Re:
i understand that. but what i was saying was that my pieces dominated the board. i had the oportunity to take his last pawn and was unable as his pawn could not move and it was declared a draw.

23. Januaro 2003, 14:53:03
pdj 
by the way. any plans for an ANTI-Horde Chess? i think it would be pretty cool!

23. Januaro 2003, 19:06:18
Doris 
Thank you for adding this game...this is a favorite...:}

23. Januaro 2003, 19:49:24
Fencer 
And could you recommend some good strategy? ;-)

24. Januaro 2003, 14:44:13
harley 
Temo: Re:
Sure, but thats the challenge! Before you took his next-to-last pawn you should have made sure he had at least one square left to move to!

24. Januaro 2003, 15:01:27
pdj 
point taken mate. still think it sucks. lol
cheers 4 da help amigo

24. Januaro 2003, 15:40:56
Dark Sense 
Temo: Need help!
I can't see the Black pawns very well on the Brown Squares! It there anyway that I can change the board color or put a bit of white in the black pawns.

24. Januaro 2003, 17:05:03
pdj 
my game with user "timetrex" seems to have frozen.
can anything be done to 'un-freeeze' it?

24. Januaro 2003, 18:13:57
grenv 
Temo: strategy
Making moves that reveal the board is as important as a good chess position. Pawns are very important because of their ability to see a lot of the board when properly placed. Knights are great in forward positions to reveal the enemy defenses. Good luck everyone.

24. Januaro 2003, 18:39:08
Fencer 
It is a classic stalemate position. If it is acceptable in normal chess, why not here?

24. Januaro 2003, 18:46:56
Fencer 
What do you mean "frozen"? You are in check, you must move your king or queen.

25. Januaro 2003, 23:51:43
Uil 
Temo: Re: This may sound stupid...
to Charles: with a three check variation i think white doesn't have any chance. It is easy for black to avoid checks

26. Januaro 2003, 01:04:38
nikos 
Temo: Re: Need help!
I didn't have this problem that Blind Fury says. Could it be something else happening?

26. Januaro 2003, 01:13:08
Charles 
Temo: Re: This may sound stupid...
to Uil: I meant for white to check black only. I suck at this game. I even lost being black.

26. Januaro 2003, 08:05:39
Fencer 
I can try to add some white pawns, will that make it more balanced?

27. Januaro 2003, 01:32:23
Uil 
Temo: Re:
to Fencer: please don't, it makes it a totally other game and i don't think it will help. I am unbeaten playing white, so it is possible (with a little help from black), but it stays a "black-game"

27. Januaro 2003, 17:15:14
Blaster 
Temo: RE:
I agree with Uil. It shouldn't be change. It would be like changing the regular chess into non-classic. Players need to play it right and have pride in it, not take it the easy way out. I don't think history of this game should be change for the sake of it.

27. Januaro 2003, 17:53:20
pdj 
fair enough. thanx for all the input guys. im just a new user to brainking and not one of the best chess players on earth (but im trying). so thanx for all the help. ;-)

27. Januaro 2003, 19:40:09
Ian 
Temo: Re: RE:
I have to agree also. Keep the game the same as it is now but maybe offer the "extra pieces" - only as a variation.:)

29. Januaro 2003, 16:55:40
Opal Lady 
Temo: Captured pieces
Is there anyway to distinguish the difference between actual pieces captured and those that were sacrificed to capture these pieces?
When we sacrifice a piece to capture our opponents pieces I don't feel they should be given credit for capturing the piece. I hope that makes sense.

29. Januaro 2003, 19:54:18
Fencer 
Temo: Re: Captured pieces
This is not a "credit", the captured pieces are displayed only for information and in-game statistics. They simply indicate which pieces are missing for white or black player, that's all. No points or credits are used :-)

31. Januaro 2003, 00:31:28
Opal Lady 
Temo: Re: Captured pieces
Thanx for the reply Fencer. I understand, but................... LOL
Great game idea!! I really enjoy it except for that one teeny thing. :-)

2. Februaro 2003, 05:47:53
Kevin 
Correct me if i'm wrong, but what i got from the rules what that you could not leave your king in check (or put your king in check - like normal check, without any pieces exploding). Because i had a game where my king was in normal check, and it would let me move as to leave my king in check. I can find the game # if needed. Thanks.

5. Februaro 2003, 13:26:55
Fencer 
Kevin: SilentBob already explained me the correct rules. I will fix the model ASAP :-)

6. Februaro 2003, 10:02:19
Fencer 
Done. Please test it.

6. Februaro 2003, 13:21:52
BlackKnight 
Temo: Re: Need help!
No, he has problems with his vision (hence his name) and has since been able to alter his board to suit.

14. Februaro 2003, 10:07:54
WhisperzQ 
I am interested in the last discussion and your explanation. The rules now clearly state taht the King can be left in check but not checkmate. Did the rules you show change regarding this situation or are the rules in error. Please explain ...

14. Februaro 2003, 10:52:03
Fencer 
It was missing in the rules. Sorry.

14. Februaro 2003, 11:06:32
WhisperzQ 
Temo: Re:
So now that i have lost a game (in a tournament no less) what recourse do I have?

14. Februaro 2003, 12:38:47
Fencer 
Which game was it? [ID] I can restore it and remove the last move.

14. Februaro 2003, 12:59:22
WhisperzQ 
Temo: Re:
Removing the last move would probably not change the outcome, it would need to go back a far way as the game strategy was based on my understanding of the previous rules, likewise another game I lost, although I doubt it would have made a difference there.

The game ID in question is 27317. I would be happy if the game was just deleted from the database (or perhaps taken back to move 1) although I wonder if my opponent would as happy. Shame because I was a queen ahead before it all went awry (in my way of thinking).

14. Februaro 2003, 13:07:50
WhisperzQ 
Temo: Re:
Just had another look at the game (ID 27317) and I would be happy to go back to after White's move 10 (which was Nb1-c3). Is this possible?

14. Februaro 2003, 14:25:18
Fencer 
Maybe you should ask your opponents if they agree with that.

14. Februaro 2003, 16:55:58
WhisperzQ 
Temo: Re:
Okay, I have sent a message to 5655 and await his/her response.

14. Februaro 2003, 21:25:37
Blaster 
Temo: Re:
In the rule of Atomic Chess clearly stated, the player who has his/her king in a check (which is not a checkmate) does NOT have to resolve this check. Of course, if he/she make another than a winning move, the opponent will capture the king in the next move. I think you didn't read that part in the rules. If you have had put me in checkmate then it would be a winning game on your part. You need to read the rules on all games well enough before you complain.

14. Februaro 2003, 21:58:08
Fencer 
5655: Nope, it was my fault. The paragraph you have quoted was not in the rules. I've added it today after Whisperz pointed that out.

14. Februaro 2003, 22:55:27
grenv 
The concepts of check and checkmate aren't really consistant here. If they were, an attack on any piece sufficient to explode the king would be check.
In the case where one is in "checkmate" but can explode the opponents king, why not allow him to?
Why not treat this similarly to Dark Chess where any move is allowed?

15. Februaro 2003, 04:04:04
Blaster 
Fencer: Ok, Now I know and I'm truly sorry for the message that I stated earlier. But, I won't repeat that game since it was hard enough for me to win without the Queen. And I could of had a Draw on my very first game of Horde Chess before you added the no more moves of black pawn(s) rules.

15. Februaro 2003, 04:13:31
Blaster 
Fencer: You are doing a great job on this site and I want to thank you for doing a wonderful job. I hope everyone try not to take this gamesite for granted. This is by far the most and the best site I ever played. I do enjoy this gamesite alot. Thanks so much Fencer! :)

15. Februaro 2003, 13:37:34
WhisperzQ 
5655 - You did not mention that you lost your queen fair and square but won under rules which had been altered. You have no honour!

15. Februaro 2003, 15:25:28
WhisperzQ 
Fencer - just a thought, but can you confirm when and what changes were made to the rules.

15. Februaro 2003, 19:05:35
Blaster 
Whisperz: I didn't make up the rules and therefore it's done and over. Get over it and have fun.

16. Februaro 2003, 01:52:58
WhisperzQ 
How about keeping two BKR ratings on this variation as, I think we all agree, black has, if played correctly, an unassailable advantage. I beleive the real interest would then be in trying to achieve and maintain the highest BKR playing White!

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