Czuch: yes and thanks for answering.
i agree that he started out ok, and then it went downhill pretty fast.
i hope obama can steer us in a new and better direction, but we have to wait and see, and i did vote for him. i felt that mccain was another 8 years of the same.

Artful Dodger: personally I wouldn't go that route, that could lead to infighting, I would just pick people who are fair at moderating the rules, not the opinions

Artful Dodger: I'd consider myself representing the conservative side, so we definitely need someone in the middle and the left.


Good luck finding someone on the left! I have never come across a good ol leftie who will admit thats what they are, they all consider themselves moderates, who never vote for conservatives

I am not sure a moderators job is or should be affected by their political views???? But if you think it would help, at least it would ensure someone from all views would actually have to read this board

Czuch: head in sand? I didn't think the digital age allowed that much to happen in openly democratic country's... The freedom of information act is one example of such democracy where groups and individuals can obtain info from our Gov that is not considered 'secret' and going to put us at risk.

If people are putting their heads in the sand then it's only because they have been programmed not to think by certain bodies in high office. I watched one episode of the show "Boston Legal" that implied that your education has become lacking compared to certain other countries.. such as ours.

Is that true?

ellieoop: just wondering if you think that bush did a good job, and if he could have run for a 3rd. term, would you have voted for him again?

Hi Ellie, I would vote for you any day!


I think Bush could have done many things better. I still support him taking it to Saddam and liberating those people, I do wish he handled the post war stuff better, although I dont think all of the anti war dissent from his own country helped much either.

I might have preferred a different person instead of bush for a third term, I actually think he became too much of a liberal for my liking, and part of the reason for his low approval rating was not just the liberals who hated him, but there were a lot of conservatives who thought he leaned to much the other way on some issues.

Having said that, I think that every person who is smart enough to get his parties nomination for president has got to be pretty darn accomplished, so i dont worry too much about the specific person as I do their ideology. If Obama were a conservative, I would have no problem voting for him, and given that Obama is as far from a conservative as you could practically get, i would have voted for Bush over him in a heart beat!


Is that what you wanted to know?

Artful Dodger: I know that, there were 2 pawns involved in the discussion, I was more joking, altho I tried to give it away once and as Al said "they keep pulling me back in"

AD, since i am sure nobody wants me to debate this topic on the general chat board..... since you are moderator on both, please send all political general chat over here, I dont think I will keep up with gen chat much, and I dont want political hacks making unchallenged remarks because I am not aware of them

Okay with that? no matter how mundane?

Vikings: I'm still waiting for the bug to be fixed re my favourite boards...

Three pits of hell I wouldn't mind so much if they came up Hades, Ghenna and Sheol

Czuch:just wondering if you think that bush did a good job, and if he could have run for a 3rd. term, would you have voted for him again?

Fencer: Thanks fencer!

Hmm, maybe now I should delete the debate club, my favorite list is getting too long

Artful Dodger: I recommend to change the board description to something more descriptive.

Hi AD

I hope this works out, but I am afraid that only a few pros will read here, and the amateurs who really need the "help" will cower back to their mundane lives with their heads in the sand, happy to be oblivious to the world around them and happy to be free from my torment