"GERRY": These days there in no guarantee for anyone to be able to run a successful business. We've had sole traders that have been around for decades now having to shut up. Some quite honestly saying that there is no help for them, banks won't help them, and the government will not help them.

And their mistake.. being in a field that the market has contracted so much there is not the business to operate. Even the last market collapse re Thatchers' boom and bust economic policy didn't break them.

Then there was the need to introduce a charge of corporate manslaughter...

Czuch: Maybe we should ask Fencer for a Better Business board & leave the politics out of it because we all know that there are not very good at running a sucessful busniness:))

(V): In the end the losers will be Paypal, as other and 'new' systems are available.

What are you saying??? The free market will work things out for itself???

...thought for sure you would advocate for the government to step in and make the evil paypal pay dearly for their bad business sense! Maybe even take over all online payment systems


Mayber we can move this on to the politics board.... have you explain to me the difference between the evil banks, who need the government to take over, or even your example of intel VS AMD, or online payment services??? How you can say in one breath thatpaypal will be a victome of its own bad business, but cant see that is how it should work for all businesses?

Bernice: Well... I can understand when you hit an organisation that denies it's made the mistake. I've been there... only to have them admit two weeks later that they did mess up. But they had annoyed me so much I went and changed to another organisation offering the same service... Turned out better for us as we now get more for our money

(V): Thanks for answering on Fencers behalf.

Bernice: Maybe he just doesn't want to go through all the paper work. In the end the losers will be Paypal, as other and 'new' systems are available.

Sometimes it just ain't worth it if an alternative(s) do just as good.

Bwild: well I had satisfaction from them.....but the point I was making....Fencer was whingeing about not enough room to explain his predicament on their email page.....is he able to ring someone? everyone apparently can ring, or isnt there a Paypal "office" in the Czech republic?

Bernice: I called them...but the rep (1st one) said to mail everything in.....2 weeks later...they had no record of me sending anything....3 weeks later...rep 3 said still nothing, and I cant revert back to a personal acct.

alexlee: yes mine is current for australia....sydney in fact.

Bernice:
The phone number I had was 1-888-221-1161. I just dialed it and it is still Paypal.

I know it wont probably make any difference as you have already made up your mind.

I had a problem with them and was able to TELEPHONE a representative, and the problem was sorted over the phone.....below is what I get when I click on the "contact us" link.......



PayPal Customer Service:
1800-073-263


6.00 a.m. to 10.00 p.m. Monday to Saturday AEST




Identification preference
To help confirm that you're the account holder when you call, we have the following personal information on file:

Credit card number Change

Would you like to change your identification preference ?

martes:  No worries.  Thanks for the understanding.  ;)

Thanks, that tiny lock icon was not something i was looking for :)

puupia: on the left side of your page, 5th link under the profile section you will see "Friends", that will send you to the right place

puupia: Go to your Friends list and you'll see a tiny lock next to the name of each of your friends.

How does one add/request public friends? I just tried to find an option for that but it just does not seem to catch my eye..

TheCrazyPuppy: Yeah, I guess you were, sorry, it seemed like you were also adding a bit of salt to the wound along with your "helpfulness", my bad...

TheCrazyPuppy: It only upsets me to see supposedly responsible, helpful people, act irresponsibly and unhelpfully...

TheCrazyPuppy: you should PM one of the Global Moderators with full details of the issue concerned and copies of all communication so far. The matter will be raised in the Global Moderator Fellowship, discussed and a decision made. The decision is final.


Thats all he needed to hear... the rest is just inflammatory to the situation.... even the most recent shark you posted, how is that helpful to anyone?

Pedro Martínez: LMAO :)))))

martes: LOL There is alot of them here Just put them on hide on all your board's & put them on block.I just removed all my blocked user's 5 or 6 day's ago & it start's all over again this time when they get blocked it's forever That is the only way you can enjoy this site & meet some very nice people & enjoy playing games:)))

martes:

martes: It's actually more like a kindergarten. From your part.

martes: No, I didn't. I just saw your name here and thought it would be cool to reply. I didn't even read the one I'm replying to.

Pedro Martínez: ROFL

martes: Impartial? A moderator is supposed to be impartial? How did you come to that conclusion? Did you read the User Agreement at all?

martes: First put him on block & we can go from there

martes: .... be specific please?

Pay Pal is gone from this site.It is not the end of the world.So let's all enjoy this SITE that Fencer is providing for all of us:)))

Fencer: same thing happened to me when I tried to upgrade my paypal from personal to a business acct. since I cannot seem to upload a clear enough image of the required documentation, faxing is not their option, mailings never are recieved, my account is now in limbo....they will accept money on my behalf....but I cant get any out!
so I am at least relieved its not just me.

Foxy Lady: Foxy fuzzy feelings, anytime

gogul: Do you serve ?

gogul: Salt n Vinegar?

Who's interested in chips?

Pedro Martínez: I offer to make it for nothing, just taking your chips

"GERRY": okay... $4.75 for me

Pedro Martínez: LOL i think I'll wait for a cheaper rate boy's:)))

Pedro Martínez: 

Artful Dodger:
I charge 4.90 though.

There is a simple solution to the Pay Pal problem.  Everyone that wants to use paypal just sends the money to me (plus a 5 us dollar handling fee) and I'll make the payment via one of the other BK payment options.  :)  But I'll probably get a letter from Pay Pal asking what business I'm involved in. 

This is just a opinion.If a player is that good or that lucky.What are they doing playing board games on a non gambling game site When they can go to sites or real live tournaments That do pay real money to win .Or is it just the glory of being # 1

AbigailII: It's not about prize tournaments. What they say (and don't want to discuss about it) is they have to make a payment to play these games, which is simply not true. Prize tournaments are optional. If you make some features restricted to paying members only, it does not mean that it supports their distorted opinion (or can a bureaucrat even have own opinion?).

By the way, PayPal is playing it safe? That's very unlikely. First of all, they admit that games of chance are not a problem but games of skill are. We have games of skill here since the very beginning of BrainKing, why hadn't they bothered me with it 3 years ago, for instance? Second, my account belongs to PayPal Europe, it has nothing to do with U.S. gambling regulations or how they call this nonsense.

It is not a good attitude to find a logic in it. Good thing is that we don't actually need them because about 70% of our income comes through other online payment gateways or wire transfers. But people should know about it before they start to defend PayPal.

It's to bad because this is a great site.But i am not paying anybody on the internet money other then by PayPal

The PayPal gambling policy:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/use/index_frame-outside&ed=gambling


PayPal are having to pay out big time in various law suits. Two examples below:
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-954672.html

http://www.dmnews.com/PayPal-Pays-10M-to-Settle-Online-Gambling-Case/article/81600/


So, they are being ultra cautious now.

AbigailII: Prize tournaments can just as easilly be restricted to non-paying members only. In fact, many are... I bought a subscription and can't enter many prize tournaments because of that
You don't buy a subscription with BK to win more money, but to play more games at once, take more vacation days, etc.

That said, I aggree with everything else you said...

Considering that there are prize tournaments, and that prize tournaments can be restricted to paying members only, there's some shred of truth about paying money to play games of skill for money. Although PayPal's emails are most likely triggered by the existence of Poker, and possibly the links to other pay sites from the front page.

I can understand why PayPal is playing it safe. BK probably doesn't make enough money for PayPal to spend a lot of time investigating what exactly it does (and doesn't). I can also understand why BK is dropping PayPal.

"GERRY": http://brainking.info/